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Re: [MMUSIC] Transport tags

"Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com> Fri, 13 January 2017 14:24 UTC

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From: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com>
To: Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com>
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Cc: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>, Paul Kyzivat <paul.kyzivat@comcast.net>, "mmusic@ietf.org" <mmusic@ietf.org>, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Transport tags
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UDP/DTLS/BFCP is already defined in 4583bis, except we specified the tag as UDP/TLS/BFCP. I agree it can be used with and without ICE.

Cheers,
Charles

On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com<mailto:roman@telurix.com>> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com<mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>> wrote:
>I do not think TCP/DTLS/BFCP is defined anywhere, so it does not have to be backwards compatible. We are not changing the proto value, we should >define a new one and explain how it works. This leaves TCP/BFCP and TLS/BFCP as they were previously defined and simply states that these transports >cannot be used with ICE. Only UDP/DTLS/BFCP and TCP/DTLS/BFCP can be used with ICE, with ICE not supported for all the other BFCP flavors.

Ok, so TCP/BFCP and TLS/BFCP will still be kept in 4583bis, and should be used when ICE is not used?


TCP/BFCP, TLS/BFCP and UDP/BFCP will be kept in 4583bis and can only be used when ICE is not used. UDP/DTLS/BFCP and TCP/DTLS/BFCP are two transport that can be used with or without ICE.

Regards,
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Roman Shpount

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