Re: [MMUSIC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g723-g729-04.txt
"Avasarala, Ranjit (NSN - IN/Bangalore)" <ranjit.avasarala@nsn.com> Mon, 22 July 2013 04:46 UTC
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From: "Avasarala, Ranjit (NSN - IN/Bangalore)" <ranjit.avasarala@nsn.com>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g723-g729-04.txt
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Hi I agree of not making these parameters mandatory. Regards Ranjit -----Original Message----- From: ext Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal) [mailto:mperumal@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 7:59 PM To: aurelien.sollaud@orange.com; Avasarala, Ranjit (NSN - IN/Bangalore); mmusic@ietf.org Subject: RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g723-g729-04.txt Agree with Aurelien. In addition, the draft explicitly specifies the behavior for the default case: When the offer or answer has G723 and the annexa parameter is absent, the offerer or answerer knows that it has implied the default "annexa=yes". This is because the annexa attribute is part of the original registration of audio/G723 [RFC4856]. All implementations that support G723 understand the annexa attribute. Hence, this case MUST be considered as if the offer or answer has G723 with annexa=yes. This I think should suffice to make sure implementations don't ignore it. So, making these optional parameters mandatory optional isn't needed (and probably isn't right). Muthu |-----Original Message----- |From: aurelien.sollaud@orange.com [mailto:aurelien.sollaud@orange.com] |Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 2:48 PM |To: Avasarala, Ranjit (NSN - IN/Bangalore); Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal); mmusic@ietf.org |Subject: RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g723-g729-04.txt | |Hi | |A lot of media subtypes have optional parameters, and as long as a default value is defined, there is |no issue. |The problem here is not that annexa/annexb parameters are optional, but that the offer/answer |procedure was not defined for these media subtypes. | |-----Message d'origine----- |De : mmusic-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mmusic-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Avasarala, Ranjit (NSN - |IN/Bangalore) |Envoyé : lundi 15 juillet 2013 09:08 |À : ext Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal); mmusic@ietf.org |Objet : Re: [MMUSIC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g723-g729-04.txt | |Hi Muthu | |I have following comments |1. RFC 4856 defines "annexa" and "annexb" as optional parameters. So I agree there could be |misinpterpretations. |2. The proposed draft should make these parameters as mandatory, otherwise the implementations would |continue to ignore the parameters. |3. Update RFC 4856 moving "annexa" and "annexb" parameters from "optional" to "required". | |Regards |Ranjit | | | |-----Original Message----- |From: mmusic-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mmusic-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Muthu Arul Mozhi |Perumal (mperumal) |Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:21 AM |To: mmusic@ietf.org |Subject: [MMUSIC] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g723-g729-04.txt | |This updated version addresses all comments received during WGLC. | |- Muthu, Partha | |-----Original Message----- |From: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- |drafts@ietf.org |Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:13 AM |To: i-d-announce@ietf.org |Cc: mmusic@ietf.org |Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g723-g729-04.txt | |A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. | This draft is a work item of the Multiparty Multimedia Session Control Working Group of the IETF. | | Title : Offer/Answer Considerations for G723 Annex A and G729 Annex B | Author(s) : Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal | Parthasarathi Ravindran | Filename : draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g723-g729-04.txt | Pages : 8 | Date : 2013-07-14 | |Abstract: | RFC4856 describes the annexa parameter for G723 and the annexb | parameter for G729, G729D and G729E. However, the specification does | not describe the offerer and answerer behavior when the value of the | annexa or annexb parameter does not match in the Session Description | protocol(SDP) offer and answer. This document provides the offer/ | answer considerations for these parameters and updates RFC4856. | |The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: |https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g723-g729 | |There's also a htmlized version available at: |http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g723-g729-04 | |A diff from the previous version is available at: |http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g723-g729-04 | |Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: |ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ | |_______________________________________________ |I-D-Announce mailing list |I-D-Announce@ietf.org |https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce |Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow- |sites.txt |_______________________________________________ |mmusic mailing list |mmusic@ietf.org |https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic |_______________________________________________ |mmusic mailing list |mmusic@ietf.org |https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic | |______________________________________________________________________________________________________ |___________________ | |Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et |ne doivent donc |pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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- Re: [MMUSIC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g7… Avasarala, Ranjit (NSN - IN/Bangalore)
- Re: [MMUSIC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g7… aurelien.sollaud
- Re: [MMUSIC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g7… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal)
- Re: [MMUSIC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g7… Avasarala, Ranjit (NSN - IN/Bangalore)