Re: [MMUSIC] FW: New Version Notification for draft-holmberg-mmusic-mux-exlusive-00.txt

Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> Mon, 07 December 2015 19:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] FW: New Version Notification for draft-holmberg-mmusic-mux-exlusive-00.txt
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On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Christer Holmberg <
christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:

>
>
> That is all fine for SDP. But, again, ICEbis only talks about ICE
> candidiates. So, I have suggested text to ICEbis, saying that the presence
> of RTP candidates (component ID 1) can mean two things: RTP/RTCP-mux or
> RTP-only. Which is used needs to be clarified in signalling (SDP, or
> whatever other signalling mechanism).
>

I would clarify this that presence of RTP candidates (component ID 1) can
mean two things: RTP/RTCP-mux or a *non-RTP **transport that is not using
RTCP and can be transmitted over a single connection, such as SCTP or UDPTL*
.

There should never be a legitimate case why RTP would be used without RTCP.
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Roman Shpount