Re: [MMUSIC] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-tcp-09.txt

"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Fri, 03 September 2010 15:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-tcp-09.txt
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mmusic-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mmusic-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Simon Perreault
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 5:34 AM
> To: Dan Wing
> Cc: mmusic@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-tcp-09.txt
> 
> On 2010-09-02 19:32, Dan Wing wrote:
> > That would give the implication it is ICE's fault that SDP is big,
> 
> For me, this is a minor concern.
> 
> > or give the implication that a host with multiple interfaces is
> > going to necessarily have STUN and TURN servers on all of those
> > interfaces.
> 
> Nah, just preface the example with some text explaining that this is a
> full-blown example, real-life will be simpler, yadda yadda yadda...
> 
> > In any event, if we're going to do a big example, how about
> > a real example in draft-ietf-sipping-nat-scenarios, if it
> > doesn't have it already?
> 
> I don't care where it is, but we need one. When you're implementing
> something, you end up looking longer at examples than at the actual
> spec. It really is extremely useful.

Agreed.

-d


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