Re: [MMUSIC] Updates to BUNDLE "Security Considerations"

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Tue, 22 November 2016 08:26 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Suhas Nandakumar <suhasietf@gmail.com>, "draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation@ietf.org>
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Hi,

When you say “put the m-line first” I assume you mean first in the group:BUNDLE attribute list?

Regards,

Christer

From: Suhas Nandakumar <suhasietf@gmail.com<mailto:suhasietf@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday 22 November 2016 at 11:20
To: "draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation@ietf.org>" <draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation@ietf.org>>
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Subject: Updates to BUNDLE "Security Considerations"
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Resent-To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com<mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>>, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no<mailto:harald@alvestrand.no>>, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca<mailto:fluffy@iii.ca>>
Resent-Date: Tuesday 22 November 2016 at 11:20

Hello Bundle Authors

   As part of discussions on the Stephen Farrell's "COMMENT" on the SDP Mux Draft during IESG Evaluation, there was a  proposal made to update the Security Considerations section of the BUNDLE draft to address security concern raised by Stephen.

The issue:
   When using a=crypto (TRANSPORT category) attribute across media sections, the Offer/Answer negotiation MAY end up in selecting a media section with a weaker a=crypto line.

The Proposal (from Cullen):

 So here my straw man suggestion ... it seems like the right place to
> mention this is in the security consideration for bundle and point
> out that if you offer multiple m-lines that are bundled, the
> recommendation is for the offers and answers to have the same security
> level or put the m-line with the highest level security first so that
> if bundle is selected, we get the strongest security.


Full discussion can be found here:
 https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mmusic/current/msg17184.html




Thanks
Suhas