Re: [MMUSIC] Change Alert [Re: Modifying an approved document: MSID]

Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Tue, 07 February 2017 13:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Change Alert [Re: Modifying an approved document: MSID]
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Den 03. feb. 2017 14:55, skrev Flemming Andreasen:
> Based on the feedback received, it seems fine to make this change.

Thank you; I've submitted -16 with this change.


> 
> Thanks
> 
> -- Flemming (as MMUSIC co-chair)
> 
> On 1/30/17 8:28 AM, Victor Pascual Avila wrote:
>> fine with me
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Bernard Aboba
>> <bernard.aboba@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I am in favor of the change.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 5:54 AM, Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Harald
>>>>
>>>> Since the document is not yet in Auth48 and the change is relatively
>>>> minor, it is possible to update it during Auth48.
>>>>
>>>> However, from an MMUSIC chair point of view, I would like to get
>>>> positive
>>>> confirmation from some of the stakeholders that this change is indeed
>>>> desired. Similarly, if anybody has any concerns with the suggested
>>>> change,
>>>> please send an e-mail to that effect.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> -- Flemming (as MMUSIC co-chair)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/23/17 10:18 AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
>>>>> Den 19. jan. 2017 13:31, skrev Harald Alvestrand:
>>>>>> Ted pointed out to me that I sent this to the wrong group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chairs and members, please advise.
>>>>> My proposed change is here:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/alvestrand/rtcweb-msid/pull/16
>>>>>
>>>>> The filed issue is here:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/alvestrand/rtcweb-msid/issues/15
>>>>>
>>>>> (CCing RTCWEB - please keep discussion, if any, on mmusic)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>>> Subject:        [rtcweb] Modifying an approved document: MSID
>>>>>> Date:   Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:22:14 +0100
>>>>>> From:   Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
>>>>>> To:     rtcweb@ietf.org <rtcweb@ietf.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When reviewing the implications of the PeerConnection API change to
>>>>>> support AddTrack rather than AddStream, I found an issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This issue concerns draft-ietf-rtcweb-msid, which is currently in
>>>>>> REF-WAIT state (I believe).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The issue is that it is possible to add a track without specifying a
>>>>>> stream. Since the track's ID needs to be carried, we have to send an
>>>>>> "a=msid" line, but the track's ID is the *second* field on that line,
>>>>>> with the first being the stream's ID.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This creates a problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suggested fix: Insert two lines in the document:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) On SDP generation:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "If there is no stream associated with the track, use the reserved ID
>>>>>> value '-'"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) On SDP parsing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "If the stream ID is the reserved value '-', the track is not
>>>>>> associated
>>>>>> with a stream, and no stream is signalled or created."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is OK with the community, I'll issue an updated draft with
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Surveillance is pervasive. Go Dark.
>>>>>>
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