Re: [Mobopts] New IRTF process for RG RFCs
"James Kempf" <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com> Wed, 08 March 2006 21:28 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Mobopts] New IRTF process for RG RFCs
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What is the IRSG? jak ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajeev Koodli" <rajeev@iprg.nokia.com> To: <mobopts@irtf.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 5:09 PM Subject: [Mobopts] New IRTF process for RG RFCs > > Folks, > > after considerable deliberation, we have a new process which I believe > will bring a much-needed formal peer review process for RG documents. I > feel this is very good for us, personally having brought it up many a time > earlier, including during the IAB review of MobOpts in Paris. So, I am > looking forward to it. > > Please see the process description below. I hope it is encouraging to all! > > Regards, > > -Rajeev > > ps: to begin with, I will act as the shepherd (see below). > > ............................................................... > > - An RG decides to publish a document using the IRTF publication > track. The RG performs a review for editorial and technical > content. The document should have a statement in the abstract > identifying the document as the product of the RG and a paragraph > in the first section describing the level of support for the > document (e.g., "this document represents the consensus of the > FOOBAR RG", "the views in this document were considered > controversial by the FOOBAR RG but the RG reached a consensus that > the document should still be published") and the breadth of review > for the document. I.e., was this document read by all the active > contributors, 3 people, or folks who are not "in" the RG but are > expert in the area? It should also be very clear throughout the > document that it is not an IETF product and is not a standard. If > an experimental protocol is described appropriate caveats need to > be present. > > - Documents should have a shepherd. This is a relatively new > concept developed in the IETF to ensure that issues raised in the > review and publication process (e.g., by the IESG and RFC Editor) > are responded to in a timely manner. The IETF shepherding process > is described in draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-doc-shepherding-05.txt > and should be adapted to the IRTF publication process as some > items in the draft will not apply. > > - The sponsoring RG chair brings the document to the IRSG for > publication. The expectation is that the RG chair has already > reviewed the draft thoroughly and considers it of publishable > quality editorially and technically. The RG should be copied on > the mail message requesting IRSG review. > > - A (firm) eight-week IRSG review period follows after which a poll > is taken. Reviews should be similar to that for a conference > paper. Votes can be: > > = 'ready to publish' -- requires a thorough read and reasonably > detailed review > > = 'not ready to publish' -- requires a thorough read, reasonably > detailed review, and actionable comments. > > = 'no objection' -- I don't object if this document goes forward; > I've read the document (perhaps quickly); I have some small > comments which are not show stoppers; I don't have great > expertise in the area. > > = 'request more time to review' -- a commitment to to provide a > thorough review in a specified period of time. > > Reviews should be written to be public. In particular, they > should be sent to the submitted RG mailing list. (We may need a > tracker of some sort to collect reviews.) > > At least two other IRSG members (besides the one sponsoring the > document) need to vote 'ready to publish' for the document to move > forward. Any vote of 'not ready to publish' will hold a documents > progress until the comments are addressed. The IRTF chair may > choose to override 'not ready to publish' holds that, in the > opinion of the chair, have received an adequate response. > > - The document is submitted to the RFC Editor who does not perform > an ISR review. The RFC Editor sends it to the IESG for an RFC3932 > review. There are several reasons why the IESG may block a > document, described in RFC3932 section 4. (The document shepherd > should be responsible for checking the IETF datatracker for IESG > blocking and non-blocking comments and forward them to the RG.) > > - Rather than the disclaimers found in RFC3932, the IESG will > instruct the RFC Editor to add the following disclaimer: > > "This RFC is a product of the Internet Research Task Force and > is not a candidate for any level of Internet Standard. The IRTF > publishes the results of Internet-related research and > development activities. These results may not be suitable for > deployment." > > For documents that specify a protocol or other technology, and > that have been considered in the IETF at one time: > > "This RFC is a product of the Internet Research Task Force. The > content of this RFC was at one time considered by the IETF, and > therefore it may resemble a current IETF work in progress or a > published IETF work. However, this is not an IETF document is > not a candidate for any level of Internet Standard. The IRTF > publishes the results of Internet-related research and > development activities. These results may not be suitable for > deployment." > > (These disclaimers will require approval by the IESG.) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mobopts mailing list > Mobopts@irtf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts > _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts
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- Re: [Mobopts] New IRTF process for RG RFCs James Kempf
- Re: [Mobopts] New IRTF process for RG RFCs Greg Daley
- [Fwd: Re: [Mobopts] New IRTF process for RG RFCs] Rajeev Koodli