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Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com> Fri, 21 August 2026 10:23 UTC

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From: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com>
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2026, at 04:01, Dan Harkins wrote:
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>   OK, fine you carefully didn't say "censorship". But I wasn't responding
> to you. I was responding to Bron who definitely did say "censorship".
> I guess I did reply to all, and that included you, but if you look below
> you'll see what I was responding to.

I said "cry censorship" as in people saying "I was censored" when the 50th time they stated EXACTLY THE SAME ARGUMENT was rejected because they're clearly in the rough and trying to filibuster the process.  That's not the same as being actually censored.

I'm sure everybody here has seen in politics or their personal lives a case where somebody faked a claim of mistreatment in order to get what they want.  It's an obvious tactic, of course it would get used.

The IETF clearly needs some defence against it.  We definitely want to fail more on the side of a not overly sensitive detector for it, but we do need to detect it.

Bron.
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