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[Mod-discuss] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-09.txt

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Wed, 30 July 2025 21:20 UTC

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Hi,

Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote:
> Even that example presents some challenges, like could a bad actor try
> to misuse the moderation process to slow an emerging consensus?

I try to make this point most of the time, so of course I agree with the
point Edward is making.

Any consensus process is slow, and the IETF is no exception. A few days is
not a material deceleration of the IETF process. But, a list full of 100
bickering messages where everyone is basically calling each other stupid
(even if couched in technical terms) drives people away, and /that/ can
happen within a few days.

It's right there in my draft, not that I'm insisting on my words:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-sayre-modpod-excellent-02#name-rules

thanks,
Rob

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