[Mod-discuss] Canned responses, was Fwd: Objection to MODPOD draft

[Paul Wouters <[e-mail]>]

For those wondering about the influx of new participants that have no regularly looking names, these are  copy and paste instances of a template that one participant launched in their blog and social media to get their (non-ietf) followers to submit objections to the ietf about modpod:

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For example, you can simply join the https://mailman3.ietf.org/mailman3/lists/mod-discuss.ietf.org/" rel="nofollow">mod-discuss mailing list and then, from your subscription address, send email along the following lines:

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My understanding is that working-group last call (WGLC) was issued in September for a MODPOD draft, with a deadline of "Tuesday October 7 (in any time zone)" for WGLC input.

Until recently, I was not adequately informed of what is happening here. I have now heard about Keith Moore's objection that the draft will do "tremendous harm to IETF's ability to build genuine consensus". This possibility was not obvious from the announcement https://web.archive.org/web/20250827091120/https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/TBaquQhQAndS0o8kBlfWpjBcSSo/ of the creation of MODPOD. I would like more time to evaluate this objection and more broadly to evaluate the costs and benefits of the draft, so I object to WG approval of the draft at this time.

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From: Zzy Wysm <[e-mail]>
Date: October 6, 2025 at 18:30:46 EDT
To: [e-mail]
Subject: [Mod-discuss] Objection to MODPOD draft



My understanding is that working-group last call (WGLC) was issued in September for a MODPOD draft, with a deadline of "Tuesday October 7 (in any time zone)" for WGLC input.

Until recently, I was not adequately informed of what is happening here. I have now heard about Keith Moore's objection that the draft will do "tremendous harm to IETF's ability to build genuine consensus". This possibility was not obvious from the announcement 

https://web.archive.org/web/20250827091120/https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/TBaquQhQAndS0o8kBlfWpjBcSSo/" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20250827091120/https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/TBaquQhQAndS0o8kBlfWpjBcSSo/ 

of the creation of MODPOD. I would like more time to evaluate this objection and more broadly to evaluate the costs and benefits of the draft, so I object to WG approval of the draft at this time.

Regards,

zzywysm