[Mod-discuss] Re: disliking (bits of) the draft is not about incompetence or corruption
Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Tue, 07 October 2025 14:17 UTC
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On 10/7/25 09:27, Ted Lemon wrote: > I feel like I'm somewhere in the middle of A Fire Upon The Deep or something. Sheesh, folks. > > This is not about censorship. Censorship is explicitly forbidden by the draft as it is currently written. Most people who engage in censorship don't think they're engaging in censorship. They merely think they're insisting on "the right thing". > If we really think that things can go bad in the ways that folks have described, this is already possible, because we always have to trust nomcom and the IESG and the chairs to call consensus fairly. We have to trust the IAB appeals path. If the people in these positions don't call consensus fairly, and the IAB doesn't call them on it, they can pretty much do whatever they want. > > The reason this hasn't already happened is that we don't want it to. That is the thing we need to maintain. No amount of wordsmithing will substitute for solidarity. It *has* already happened, and this draft will make things worse if it's adopted. No amount of solidarity will substitute for tolerance and diversity. Solidarity promotes intolerance rather than tolerance. Keith
- [Mod-discuss] disliking (bits of) the draft is no… Stephen Farrell
- [Mod-discuss] Re: disliking (bits of) the draft i… Eliot Lear
- [Mod-discuss] Re: disliking (bits of) the draft i… Simon Josefsson
- [Mod-discuss] Re: disliking (bits of) the draft i… John C Klensin
- [Mod-discuss] Re: disliking (bits of) the draft i… Keith Moore
- [Mod-discuss] Re: disliking (bits of) the draft i… Ted Lemon
- [Mod-discuss] Re: disliking (bits of) the draft i… Keith Moore
- [Mod-discuss] Re: disliking (bits of) the draft i… John Scudder
- [Mod-discuss] Re: disliking (bits of) the draft i… John Scudder
- [Mod-discuss] Re: disliking (bits of) the draft i… John C Klensin
- [Mod-discuss] Re: disliking (bits of) the draft i… Ted Lemon