[Mod-discuss] Re: Complaint to IAB regarding IESG decisions

[Simon Josefsson <[e-mail]>]

All,

I think the exchange below is a good example of the bad consequences of
setting up a moderators team that is separate from normal management and
appeal process of the IETF.  I cannot honestly believe the claims that
the new processes will result in less bans than before.  My perception
is that the new processes is catered towards being able to silence
discenters without them having any normal appeals process within a
standard WG procedure.  The trend here is to expand the definition of
"disruptive" to include disagreement over technical (/legal) matters.

/Simon

"D. J. Bernstein" <[e-mail]> writes:

>> This was out of concern that the topic was one that too few list
>> subscribers were interested in. It can be a fine balance. The more feedback
>> we receive, the easier it becomes to judge interest.
>
> Off-list, you flatly refused to publicly quote and answer my questions
> about the basis for your threatened list ban. You wrote "I don't think
> IETF list recipients want to read that". You also didn't privately
> answer the questions. You were suppressing dissent, sabotaging appeal
> processes, and sabotaging public review of your actions. I'm writing
> this with all due respect.