Re: [Model-t] Minimization

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Wed, 16 March 2022 23:51 UTC

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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 10:50:53 +1100
From: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
To: Russ White <russ@riw.us>, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>
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Subject: Re: [Model-t] Minimization
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All of these are good points.

There is also performance to consider.  Smaller = faster, even if we don't notice the effect on a single interactions, at the scale of the Internet it can matter.  At the point that you avoid sending an extra packet, you have a massive impact.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, at 02:03, russ@riw.us wrote:
>> Just wanted to send an update that there’s a new version of the
>> minimization draft, inspired largely by your comments Martin. I like the
>> direction of making smaller number of statements and shorter overall
>> text, and focusing of course on established principles. Comments
>> appreciated.
>
> A few possible interesting points to include ... I can provide text 
> suggestions if it's useful.
>
> -- Reducing the amount of information shared between devices/subsystems 
> within a larger system not only increases security, it also protects 
> privacy.
> -- Reducing the amount of information shared (the depth of the 
> interaction surface) can help to reduce coupling between subsystems, 
> hence increasing system resilience while also increasing security.
> -- Reducing the amount of information shared also reduces the attack 
> surface by reducing the amount of control an attacker might gain over 
> any given subsystem through a given interface.
> -- Reducing the number of places (physical or logical) in the system 
> where information is shared (the breadth of the interaction surface) 
> can help reduce the attack surface in meaningful ways.
> -- For both privacy and security, care should be taken to _destroy_ 
> information in a timely manner ... protocols should be designed, where 
> possible (it's not always possible), to not rely on information being 
> present "forever."

This, I think, strays a little from the central thesis.

> -- Not only should the minimal amount of information be shared, the 
> most abstract, or least specific, information should be shared to "get 
> the job done."

Isn't this just data minimization too?

>
> I don't know if all of these are useful or not, just throwing them out 
> there for discussion.
>
> 😊 /r