[Model-t] Side meeting on protocol development, the IETF and Internet consolidation at IETF 114

Mark McFadden <mark@internetpolicyadvisors.com> Thu, 21 July 2022 14:31 UTC

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Public Side Meeting: Consolidation
Protocol development, the IETF and Internet consolidation
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Thursday, 28 July 1600-1730 local time

Several recent Internet drafts have discussed aspects of consolidation and
how protocol design and consolidation interact. While some of the drafts
have had extensive revisions based on discussions on mailing lists,
consolidation is not a part of any charter for a Working Group and seldom
gets discussed in larger, plenary sessions.  The purpose of this session is
to have a brief discussion of some of the important contributions and then
a discussion of whether this should be a topic that gets more formal
treatment within some part of the IETF, IAB or IRTF. One of the drafts
describes consolidation as "the process of increasing control over internet
infrastructure and services by a small set of organizations.”

Draft agenda for the meeting:
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1. Introduction, purpose and ground rules for the meeting
2. Characteristics of existing I-Ds that discuss consolidation
3. Discussion of whether or not consolidation is an appropriate topic
within the IETF
4. Assessment and agreement of next steps (e.g. meeting in London at 115)
5. AOB

The meeting will be chaired by Jim Reid.
Questions or suggestions can be sent to mark <at> internetpolicyadvisors.com

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