[Moq] Re: Consensus call on Object filters

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Wed, 27 May 2026 09:12 UTC

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From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
To: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, MOQ Mailing List <moq@ietf.org>
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WG,

I conclude that there exists a rough consensus to include object filters into MOQT specification. There have been some voiced objections against including this, but nothing I judge as blocking adopting this functionality.

PR proponents prepare a PR that contains only the object filters part. You should communicate with the MOQT editors to ensure that it can be integrated as good as possible.

Magnus Westerlund
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From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Tuesday, 12 May 2026 at 13:42
To: MOQ Mailing List <moq@ietf.org>
Subject: [Moq] Consensus call on Object filters

WG,

In yesterday’s meeting we did two polls related to the filters proposal (https://github.com/moq-wg/moq-transport/pull/1518) The chairs take away from that is that we had a good indication of there being a rough consensus for including the Object Filters part. The signal from the top-n track filters was showing clear interest but equally strong no. So this part needs further discussion, I will start a separate thread on that part.

This functionality would be optional to support and will have an option to indicate the maximum number of filters.

This is a two-week (until the end of the 26th of May) consensus call on including object filters as described in PR #1518 into the MOQT specification. I encourage all, also those that participated in the poll, to state a position. State if you are supporting including Object filters in the MOQT specification.

Supporting / Not Supporting

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Magnus Westerlund
MOQ Chair