Re: [mpls] Poll for Adoption draft-lcap-mpls-moving-iana-registries-02

[Loa Andersson <[e-mail]>]

All,

I agree with Andy - draft-lcap-mpls-moving-iana-registries improve
things. It does not make them perfect, but the strategy do do everything
on one giant leap have failed, not we approach this is in small steps.

/Loa

On 2013-09-06 16:04, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> Tom and Carlos,
>
> Thanks for the hint, I just forwarded the call for adoption to the PWE3
> list and asked for comments on the MPLS list.
>
> Tom, with my PWE3 co-chair on, I really agree with Carlos that the end
> benefits are much better than the current situation where we've
> organically arrived. There are times where a cleanup really does help,
> and this is one of them.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
> <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>     Tom,
>
>     It is, indeed, a tradeoff whether to update IANA registries (or
>     documents for that matter) after-the-fact. I agree that both sides
>     of the equation need to be weighted, and thanks for the input. I
>     will add that there is a timing condition to the trade-off, such
>     that controlling mess earlier prevents compounded mess.
>
>     Based on these points, my thoughts:
>
>      1. I contend that in this case, we end up with better underlying
>         RFCs as well -- if you actually check the RFCs being updated,
>         none of them have pointers (URIs) to the actual IANA registries.
>         Only vague descriptions -- so the registries are really hard to
>         find. With this update, the RFCs' metadata are updated, and the
>         new RFC will have precise pointers.
>      2. Is the WG planning on adding features that require numbers for
>         G-ACh? If the answer is at least "maybe" or "potentially", then
>         we should do this now to prevent exponential mess. Arguably we
>         should have done this earlier.
>
>     Regarding PWE3, I agree as well -- Andy Malis weighted in, feel free
>     to also forward the poll to PWE3.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     -- Carlos.
>
>     On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:53 AM, t.petch <[e-mail]
>     <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>>     Messy
>>
>>     We end up with a better IANA registry but with worse underlying RFC,
>>     since this updates seven of them, making it harder to find the current
>>     status of the MPLS standards, and we already have an awful lot of MPLS
>>     RFC interacting with each other.
>>
>>     Is there a half-way house which gives us most of the benefit with
>>     fewer
>>     updates?
>>
>>     And this hits PWE3 so I think that they should be polled as well.
>>
>>     On balance, I do not support this.
>>
>>     Tom Petch
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     From: "Ross Callon" <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>     To: <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>     Cc: <[e-mail]
>>     <mailto:[e-mail]>>; <[e-mail]
>>     <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>     Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 5:01 PM
>>     Subject: [mpls] Poll for Adoption
>>     draft-lcap-mpls-moving-iana-registries-02
>>
>>
>>     This is to start a "two week" poll on adopting
>>     draft-lcap-mpls-moving-iana-registries-02
>>     as an MPLS working group document.
>>
>>     Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working
>>     group mailing list ([e-mail]
>>     <mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]>).
>>
>>     This poll will end September 20, 2013.
>>
>>     Thanks, Ross
>>
>>
>>
>>
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