Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-li-lb-01.txt

Sami Boutros <sboutros@cisco.com> Thu, 12 May 2011 21:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-li-lb-01.txt
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Agreed Yaacov, during the period of loopback the 
cc-cv function can't be performed, and yes the 
main benefit is of loopback is to measure 
loss/delay on a segment of a path as you stated.

Thanks,

Sami
At 10:36 PM 5/11/2011, Weingarten, Yaacov (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon) wrote:
>Sami, hi
>
>My understanding is that the question that was 
>asked is how do you use the cc-cv function to 
>check for mis-connectivity if it is being looped-back.
>
>Truth be told that during the period of loopback 
>you apparently cannot check the e2e path for 
>mis-connectivity, and the operator needs to take 
>this into consideration.  But since the path is 
>not transferring data e2e (it is looping 
>everything back) it is by definition not connected e2e.
>
>What is true is what Sami states this 
>functionality should be used to setup a 
>loss/delay measurement on a segment of a path, 
>and it should be used only for limited periods.
>
>Just my 2cents,
>yaacov
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>From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org 
>[mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Sami Boutros
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>To: liu.guoman@zte.com.cn; Loa Andersson
>Cc: Ross Callon; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc 
>team; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-li-lb@tools.ietf.org
>Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-li-lb-01.txt
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>To check for mis-connectivity/mis-configuration, 
>you need a cc-cv function not a loopback function.
>
>The loopback function can be used for loss/delay 
>measurements, and this will be addressed in the delay/loss draft.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sami
>At 07:11 PM 5/10/2011, liu.guoman@zte.com.cn wrote:
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>hi, all
>for this draft, I have a question for Loopback function.
>in last ietf meeting, IMO, the author sami said this
>Loopback function is to loopback anything. for MEP point of
>a LSP, if it is set to Loopback state, it will loopback all received
>packets including any OAM packet. if so, how to detect mis-connectivity or
>mis-configuration for the LSP?
>in addtion, if it happen mis-connectivity, maybe 
>other LSP packet be transported to
>the MEP , and the mep point will still Loopback 
>the wrong packet to peer mep point,
>can it affect<app:ds:performance> performance 
><app:ds:statistics>statistics or measurement on the peer mep point?
>
>B.R.
>liu
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>[mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-li-lb-01.txt
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>Working Group,
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>this is to start a two week working group last call on
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>draft-ietf-mpls-tp-li-lb-01.txt
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>Please send your comments to the mpls@ietf.org mailing list.
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>This working group last call ends on May 25th.
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>/Loa
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