[mpls] Re: draft-ietf-mpls-mna-ioam-07 early Perfmetrdir review
Rakesh Gandhi <rgandhi.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 28 July 2026 19:04 UTC
Return-Path: <rgandhi.ietf@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: mpls@mail2.ietf.org
Delivered-To: mpls@mail2.ietf.org
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.ietf.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B5512001A89 for <mpls@mail2.ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Jul 2026 12:04:24 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ietf.org; s=ietf1; t=1785265464; bh=UvyCML68xQCFZweASgYYctZzWpzfACXc1D7SPwib7x0=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:Cc; b=uLobwYIL8x9B2Pj5ivHVkU/Zg+6atjspjfDAA8HReu1PQJUz81gBRnh1X6Iz5KT/Z lXyqS8CVUkzLKkR+HEUXDPz/91uc+ovIhq3bb28LyAQrNMZDpn38VEYA1rpjuZcGP4 xrURYgZT10DUuOs2vGTFcLMnbjN8xYnZjGkSPxOs=
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ietf.org
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.098
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: mail2.ietf.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail2.ietf.org ([166.84.6.31]) by localhost (mail2.ietf.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2-TJURo8qxBD for <mpls@mail2.ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Jul 2026 12:04:24 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-ed1-x52d.google.com (mail-ed1-x52d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.ietf.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA45A12001980 for <mpls@ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Jul 2026 12:04:19 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-ed1-x52d.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-69ffbd2a277so170774a12.0 for <mpls@ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Jul 2026 12:04:19 -0700 (PDT)
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1785265453; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20260327; b=UCOX8oEWvytqjyAALpLUNK0vITEJAvuvPWc7KfTXvyH/p+x7HEkCFywdYxm+w/miVR IC9ZhS+DA3rg260TNnBQ5ouVaSWOuReaKkFns6d8XslwE1nUabx0Bj82OfXcZlYXq+/z /fISYGVQYw6rld83XtsgjV+665mxKEzjmBSRhNOlN2TvoGMBMILVECmkV1hYFjOJmSst +OEUH6Ip+HHbq2gpDniY+3PspRYqR2DHrMEWSrvNw9/p/B6mZWCDgeOS9PZwEkGochIW abQf6MyJmGtFZN1tU975aN3d6Ohd/gIf8bfRRqOQ87Hw5GTRMz73fRNpO0u1aZtf3E8i Ty8Q==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20260327; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:dkim-signature; bh=7YaMuO20ZXdb4eih/x4OxlPqZs6R5H81Ce+VQ0gmYoQ=; fh=s7hSIaUQ9GBFuhQrrngc5utnyuNW6Tu4BoptrBcF9/4=; b=RpAnrByA4h9/Q/ksogRbmf4rEdlD85UuII3/iM9/wEQquDW8BOZKAplMa5eKRlJKN0 /6kFswHfuxhz4dSWfgFaGFYP6UHIQ4iL7sPJUqlZTAMVSjNW/UanSwKu4LS6isfzUjk7 dAtuleC00j2G0VBMVNreZEx/Ir0BZ2WstDmBvZGEOk0qwhMRg22KKDnwtFDqFn5r0TfU 8pWxGorMP6oFfwQEdiyz/6cLg5ksabshF+vwHAb2+ttnoGzOxm7dW+DVsW23wQRPcxOD /47x3tIvp0FcEiftBOtL3fuSugPDbfA49QsNEYInev40y8J4PQ4ZQ0p2gDZ/YBH9qX1Z fFPQ==; darn=ietf.org
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; arc=none
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20251104; t=1785265453; x=1785870253; darn=ietf.org; h=content-type:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to :content-type; bh=7YaMuO20ZXdb4eih/x4OxlPqZs6R5H81Ce+VQ0gmYoQ=; b=YRG9HHr/5HfPAQl50dvgyQ+UTW64ZSgzHSnDHSAwWNhMynQ4fxvf78CUy13RSQ51wn WiGMONQ1GAduNtvYkRjrn/9NAe92L3CdUAiZ6iXFRBLepPE3mnmNxAkkNHec91l0HREJ 4Q2zmoo6vzFemxHNKqMgeGwGmDp+RJSmUgpezMx3ldH0xSWfDMN0m2RJLcyj17Eq+/sU voPHU41+oYqcbvl0vwJ5JOyx/msZHevyhzUPsVyF5Tyw4J8iPd/dKWwOAwoXpGVE0u+Z zpGJ4QpI21E2rqEIJfJENt08/mm3UocEREzjrjlMPI9wJP5Axfrs9bKpsIteixHee054 TxoA==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20251104; t=1785265453; x=1785870253; h=content-type:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:x-gm-gg:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to:content-type; bh=7YaMuO20ZXdb4eih/x4OxlPqZs6R5H81Ce+VQ0gmYoQ=; b=eClDzUGopfT3r12Pfca/P3g9JK9fBR2pumQ2iPfbtZMspkDw8lRLgASbppi99B5gAM cPSzlwWHML8WoSe1MnT7lmHpp7Nz/30usXlFTDMn6GvCzeIsOv3wj9/p1HZ7nd6CJ+Ya SVAnphCdd9EUSvAQ6vmy8l5d9GNXfg7AuU4pKpZfpmyCdALfe9KxKoiFoYoCW7c9HUPs pIvrkhOTnF98cN+SSHbCZs/3Fe73cyYG3XsUSOOAdFIoOpG1VzbvB1lDII+ImINLT5h2 yN0IEsORkBDVzANduji1x+DTV6MHUHEgMeYlFvDF152lpDvSdFGfHyvA49ccYkKPavWq 8wnQ==
X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AHgh+RpGyzrPgOqmHD6xeuBmrzm3bRhIqpB3EdCkrItIeGTjULnOqlOlhbY8OxVad4a+9dCjaIOs@ietf.org
X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwBbhoS5k1e/raywtpNQr0t6OpJvfRYxkj7b5AqM1BUy5Zj4VnQ GBYQJMCPVZ8XHQFKk+7N9oUVmbVn6Aym1kpk3BiQ3r7MJHMbeQpkQ4F39W5v3GGN6Kw2O2FQCuj f/IscTt27rwawTcQeOHz7RMiSI7vdiA==
X-Gm-Gg: AR+sD10AwWXxwMTVqRBidAoYW8+tGRz+iSovyCPtGgm+5cyQrAjXXFUQEqart3Tt2n5 7EskHqMCw/QR5PltFbsCOxIUkBtv8+pmAe5ffBLZh8wteGSgESb5UNkwl6BAmuwgMfouSndoo3f NpAJOafnSeUoxBqZnaLgtEEY9nyk2pVxGlBv6dp0afOxX9GQY0egqAKGCjv2nM/YsNta0Yyd83K a8O/kqkxUd+4B4vXx8xk9qlGbFTggDMQPGZbOBlr5pIyVkoYzU9FiVWH+Te/1xOkFJuhgUmQsQz GSMk0CpQFBKAqTriQPgy42WJLrtmtXLoS1Oh0fKk0sP5yc8Ol76Ie0dqzHHeMWcEwcTbQZ1w6s3 h0A==
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:5049:b0:69c:769d:6f19 with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-6a0349f87eemr1630526a12.10.1785265452725; Tue, 28 Jul 2026 12:04:12 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <178524543857.1238880.18144961238692030482@dt-datatracker-d4d6ff9d9-ql5mb>
In-Reply-To: <178524543857.1238880.18144961238692030482@dt-datatracker-d4d6ff9d9-ql5mb>
From: Rakesh Gandhi <rgandhi.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2026 15:03:59 -0400
X-Gm-Features: AUfX_mxUFxvR7ki3kkYF0P3RFtvsBFXushIrqdq_3SJNPEpibkjBQyUTv341KAE
Message-ID: <CAMZsk6cyyhG3d1eqWfObdiUr-vtJ6TWfsUZQb-55Lnb9irZfpQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Giuseppe Fioccola <giuseppe.fioccola@huawei.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000023b9b70657b0819d"
Message-ID-Hash: J7Y5FKUH22PCD5J7W3WHAGABHOJRJMNJ
X-Message-ID-Hash: J7Y5FKUH22PCD5J7W3WHAGABHOJRJMNJ
X-MailFrom: rgandhi.ietf@gmail.com
X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-mpls.ietf.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header
CC: pm-dir@ietf.org, draft-ietf-mpls-mna-ioam.all@ietf.org, mpls@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc6
Precedence: list
Subject: [mpls] Re: draft-ietf-mpls-mna-ioam-07 early Perfmetrdir review
List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG <mpls.ietf.org>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/D8oVKjcM5SXsro9K8eNTlhyKEoQ>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/mpls>
List-Help: <mailto:mpls-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Owner: <mailto:mpls-owner@ietf.org>
List-Post: <mailto:mpls@ietf.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:mpls-join@ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:mpls-leave@ietf.org>
Hi Giuseppe, Thank you for the detailed review. Please see replies inline with <RG>... On Tue, Jul 28, 2026 at 9:31 AM Giuseppe Fioccola via Datatracker < noreply@ietf.org> wrote: > Document: draft-ietf-mpls-mna-ioam > Title: Supporting In Situ Operations, Administration, and Maintenance Using > MPLS Network Actions Reviewer: Giuseppe Fioccola Review result: Has Issues > > This document specifies how to employ MNA (MPLS Network Actions) mechanism > to > collect and transport IOAM and IOAM-DEX data. > > >From a PERFMETRDIR point of view, the performance measurement method is > defined > quite clearly. But, I have general comments for your consideration: > > - Section 3 says that the procedure to carry IOAM using the MNA solution > can be > applied to user traffic packets and active measurement test packets. In > this > regard, I would also add a reference to > draft-ietf-ippm-on-path-active-measurements, where this combination is > generalized for all the active tools. > <RG> Added following sentence: [I-D.ietf-ippm-on-path-active-measurements] also describes active measurement methods where the mechanisms defined in this document using MNA can be used to carry IOAM Option-Types for on-path telemetry. > > - In section 4.1, the first sentence is not very clear. I would better > clarify > whether Figure 1 shows an example of Post-Stack MPLS Header Carrying IOAM > and > IOAM-DEX. > <RG> Updated as follows: The presence of a corresponding Post-Stack MPLS Header (PSMH) is indicated using the P flag in the NAS as defined in [I-D.ietf-mpls-mna-ps-hdr]. An example of a NAS and the corresponding PSMH carrying IOAM and IOAM-DEX Option-Types is shown in Figure 1. > > - In section 4.1, 4.1.1, 4.1.1.1, 4.2 and 4.2.1 there are several fields > (e.g. > TC, S, TTL) that are not described. Maybe, you can simply add them to the > Acronyms of section 2.1 or refer to draft-ietf-mpls-mna-ps-hdr. > <RG> Added in the Acronym table with the references. > > - Section 5 could also be merged with section 6 on Operational > Considerations > since there are many considerations related to deployment, operations, and > management. > > <RG> Added following sentence in Section 6 Operational Considerations. Additional operational considerations are described in Section 5 for deploying IOAM and IOAM-DEX in MPLS networks. Thanks, Rakesh (for authors) > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list -- mpls@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mpls-leave@ietf.org >
- [mpls] draft-ietf-mpls-mna-ioam-07 early Perfmetr… Giuseppe Fioccola via Datatracker
- [mpls] Re: draft-ietf-mpls-mna-ioam-07 early Perf… Rakesh Gandhi
- [mpls] Re: draft-ietf-mpls-mna-ioam-07 early Perf… Giuseppe Fioccola