Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-multi-topology-02.txt an mpls wg document
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Subject: Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-multi-topology-02.txt an mpls wg document
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Dan, Thank you for your review and helping us create a better document. I will discuss your comments with the other authors and we will incorporate changes in a future version of our document. Thanks, Quintin. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:33:59 +0100 From: "Daniel King" <daniel@olddog.co.uk> To: <mpls@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-multi-topology-02.txt an mpls wg document Message-ID: <001e01cc8142$9dd61760$d9824620$@olddog.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi WG, Just wanted to add my support for the work/document. Authors, I have also reviewed the document. I can provide an MS word document with change modification indicators to the current editor(s). In the meantime here are a number of comments and suggestions. Assuming the document is adopted, these suggestions might be incorporated after the ID is submitted as draft-ietf. 1. Solution Comments Having spoken to various vendors and operators I believe the preferred solution is to extend MPLS for MT networks by mapping an IP address to the corresponding Multi Topology: Single topology label ~ address MT label ~ (address plus topology) This would negate the need for changes at the data plane. Then the only mapping required is at the ingress-PE of an MPLS-MT LSP, each node would be capable of identifying the MPLS-MT LSP, and traffic is switched accordingly based on the incoming label information. This solution uses minimal protocol extensions. Please find my suggested updates and fixes for the first half of the document. 1. Document editors, table of contents and formatting - ChinaMobile/China Mobile - Verison/Verizon - Unnecessary number of CRs between authors and document title/name. - FEC TLV with MT-ID Extenstion/FEC TLV with MT-ID Extension 2. Revised Abstract >> Multi-topology (MT) routing is supported in IP through extension of IGP protocols, such as OSPF and IS-IS. It would be advantageous to extend Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS), using Label Distribution Protocol (LDP), to support multiple topologies. These LDP extensions, known as Multiple Topology Label Distribution Protocol (MT LDP), would allow the configuration of multiple topologies within an MPLS LDP enabled network. This document describes the protocol extensions required to extend the existing MPLS LDP signalling protocol for creating and maintaining LSPs in an MT environment. << Line 34: enviroment/environment 3. The introduction, as well as other areas of the document, could do with significant weight loss. Although interesting, some of the text is redundant in this document. I would suggest the introduction is slimmed down to the following text/edits, and a new requirements section (see comment 4) is added: >> OSPF and IS-IS use MT-ID (Multi-Topology Identification) to identify different topologies. For each topology identified by a MT-ID, IGP computes a separate SPF tree independently to find the best paths to the IP prefixes associated with this topology. For FECs that are associated with a specific topology, this solution utilises the same MT-ID of this topology in LDP. Thus LSP for a certain FEC may be created and maintained along the IGP path in this topology. Maintaining multiple MTs for MPLS network in a backwards-compatible manner requires several extensions to the label signaling encoding and processing procedures. When label is associated with a FEC, the FEC includes both IP address and topology it belongs to. << Line 204: certian/certain Line 238: managment/management Line 241: forwarding/forwarding Line 251: tolology/topology Line 253: assinged/assigned Line 256: prtoco/protocol Line 260: distingushed/distinguished and assinged/assigned 4. Requirements, specifically the lack thereof. The document would benefit from a paragraph with bullets detailing the objectives/requirements for these protocol extensions. 5. Application Scenarios are useful but specific requirements can be blended into the requirements section. Thanks, Dan -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson Sent: 20 September 2011 19:16 To: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-multi-topology-02.txt an mpls wg document Working Group, this is to start a two week poll to see if there is support to make LDP Extension for Multi Topology Support draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-multi-topology-02.txt an MPLS working group document. Send your opinions to mpls@ietf.org Please remember that it is particular important that you include a technical motivation if you don't want the ID to become a working group document. The poll ends Wednesday Oct 5, 2011. /Loa for the MPLS wg co-chairs -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 09:46:46 -0400 From: Eric Rosen <erosen@cisco.com> To: Kamran Raza <skraza@cisco.com> Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] mpls-ldp-ipv6 : Issue needs WG input Message-ID: <28735.1317649606@erosen-linux> I agree with Carlos and Kamran, and would suggest the removal of section 7. Also, the last paragraph of section 3 seems dubious: Additionally, it is desirable that a packet is forwarded to an LSP of an egress router, only if LSP's address-family matches with that of the LDP hello adjacency on the next-hop interface. > The issue is that the current LDP spec rfc5036 allows an LDP peer to > advertise IPv6 bindings to an LDP IPv4 peer, even though the peer may > not have any IPv6 enabled (or IPv6 LDP), and vice versa. There is a general issue of how to prevent LDP from sending label bindings to a particular peer, if the peer doesn't need those label bindings. I don't think the set of label bindings needed by the peer can be inferred from the type of the Hello adjacency. The information needed to choose the network layer protocol used by the LDP session should not be used to infer the set of label bindings to be distributed, as these are two independent choices. I think proposals for constraining the set of advertised label bindings should be outside the scope of this document. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 09:43:31 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-li-lb-07.txt Message-ID: <20111003164331.16171.19405.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : MPLS Transport Profile lock Instruct and Loopback Functions Author(s) : Sami Boutros Siva Sivabalan Rahul Aggarwal Martin Vigoureux Xuehui Dai Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-tp-li-lb-07.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2011-10-03 Two useful Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) functions in a transport network are "lock" and "loopback". The lock function enables an operator to lock a transport path such that it does not carry client traffic, but can continue to carry OAM messages and may carry test traffic. The loopback function allows an operator to set a specific node on the transport path into loopback mode such that it returns all received data. This document specifies the lock function for MPLS networks and describes how the loopback function operates in MPLS networks. This document updates RFC 6371 section 7.1.1. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-li-lb-07.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-li-lb-07.txt ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls End of mpls Digest, Vol 90, Issue 3 ***********************************
- [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-multi-t… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Emily Chen(Ying)
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Lucy yong
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Huaimo Chen
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Huang Lu
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Quintin Zhao
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Kamran Raza
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Anzar Hasan
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Dhruv Dhody
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Amund Kvalbein
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Renwei Li
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… LI Lianyuan
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Jie Dong
- [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-multi-t… Boris Zhang
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Daniel King
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Quintin Zhao
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-zhao-mpls-ldp-mul… Loa Andersson