[mpls] R: Fwd: Response to Updated draft Recommendation G.tpoam [Ref 043.02]
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Subject: [mpls] R: Fwd: Response to Updated draft Recommendation G.tpoam [Ref 043.02]
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The new LS text does not address my concern. The LS is now stating that although the IETF is not commited to deliver to ITU- T what it was promised in the JWT agreement, the IETF will keep saying the opposite. >----Messaggio originale---- >Da: stbryant@cisco.com >Data: 15-gen-2011 9.50 >A: "mpls@ietf.org"<mpls@ietf.org> >Ogg: [mpls] Fwd: Response to Updated draft Recommendation G.tpoam [Ref 043.02] > >I would like to thank the MPLS Working Group for the review of this >liaison. > >I have sent the following to the ITU-T which I believe to be factually >correct. > >Regards > >Stewart >(IETF Liaison to ITU-T on MPLS) > > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: [mpls] Response to Updated draft Recommendation G.tpoam [Ref >043.02] >Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 08:49:16 +0000 >From: Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com> >Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com >To: tsbsg15@itu.int, "ITU-T SG15 TSB"@cisco.com, Greg ><Greg.Jones@itu.int>, Hiroshi Ota <Hiroshi.OTA@itu.int>, IAB <iab@ietf.org> >CC: mpls@ietf.org <mpls@ietf.org>, Greg <Greg.Jones@itu.int>, >Malcolm.BETTS <Malcolm.BETTS@zte.com.cn>, statements@ietf.org, >yoichi.maeda@ttc.or.jp, ITU-T SG15 TSB@cisco.com, Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam) ><kam.lam@alcatel-lucent.com>, Patrik Fältström <paf@cisco.com>, Adrian >Farrel <Adrian.Farrel@huawei.com>, Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com>, >Huub Van Helvoort <hhelvoort@huawei.com>, Ghani Abbas ><ghani.abbas@ericsson.com> > > > >Title: Response to Updated draft Recommendation G.tpoam [Ref 043.02] > >Submission Date: 15th January 2011 > >From: IETF Liaison to ITU-T on MPLS stbryant@cisco.com >To: tsbsg15@itu.int > greg.jones@itu.int > hiroshi.ota@itu.int > iab@ietf.org >CC: swallow@cisco.com > loa@pi.nu > paf@cisco.com > stbryant@cisco.com > adrian.farrel@huawei.com > mpls@ietf.org > yoichi.maeda@ttc.or.jp > steve.trowbridge@alcatel-lucent.com > ghani.abbas@ericsson.com > hhelvoort@huawei.com > malcolm.betts@zte.com.cn > kam.lam@alcatel-lucent.com > statements@ietf.org > >Response Contact: stbryant@cisco.com >Technical Contact: stbryant@cisco.com > >Purpose: For Action >Deadline: 15th March 2011 > >Thank you for your liaison statement "LS233 - Updated draft >Recommendation G.tpoam [Ref 043.01]" > >The MPLS Working Group notes that this document contains >text describing MPLS-TP OAM protocols not designed and >standardized using the IETF Standards process. Specifically it >uses material from draft-bhh-mpls-tp-oam-y1731-06. Please may we >draw your attention to the status section of all Internet-Drafts >which says: > >"Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six >months and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other >documents at any time. It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts >as reference material or to cite them other than as >"work in progress". > >Please also note that since the draft filename starts with >the prefix string "draft-bhh" this clearly identifies it to >the reader as a document expressing the personal technical >views of the authors and hence hence as a document that that >does not have any acknowledged level of IETF consensus. > >Since the text of draft Recommendation for G.tpoam is based >on an MPLS-TP OAM protocol not designed within the IETF >Standards Process this is a breach of the SG15 agreement >with the IETF as published in "Report of the first meeting >of Working Party 3/15 Transport network structures >(2009-2012)" (Geneva, 1 – 12 December 2008) which can >be found at http://www.itu.int/md/T09-SG15-R-0004/en. As a >consequence the MPLS WG has not been asked to review this >Draft Recommendation by the IETF management. When the ITU-T >SG15 liaises a draft Recommendation written in accordance >with the above agreement, IETF management will ask the MPLS >WG to perform an in depth review. We look forward to receiving >your next draft. > >Please confirm that the ITU-T intends to continue with the >joint work on MPLS-TP and that the ITU-T will align this >recommendation with the IETF MPLS-TP OAM design before advancing >this document through the ITU-T publication process. > >You should also be aware of the IETF copyright rules. Please >see http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/archive/IETF- >Trust-License-Policy-20091228.htm for further details. > >Since this draft Recommendation contains text in which >the ITU-T SG15 has proposed making changes to IETF protocols >without the approval of the IETF, the MPLS Working Group >have referred this liaison to the IAB for their >consideration. > >Please can we take this opportunity state that the IETF >is committed to developing the MPLS-TP solution as described >in the Joint Working Team Recommendations and meeting >the jointly agreed MPLS-TP requirements documented in >RFC5654. > > >_______________________________________________ >mpls mailing list >mpls@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > >_______________________________________________ >mpls mailing list >mpls@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >
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