Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] Term "PSC" indraft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-01
"Cecil Byles" <Cecil.Byles@interoute.com> Wed, 24 March 2010 09:49 UTC
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Hi, Can I therefore also asked how PSC "Protection State Coordination" in the MPLS-TP parlance align with ITU-T 808.1 recommendation that "defines the generic functional models, characteristics and processes associated with various linear protection schemes for connection-oriented layer networks; e.g., Optical Transport Networks (OTN), Synchronous Digital Hierarchy (SDH) networks and Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM) networks" and the sections covering Terms and Definitions as well as Abbreviations. IMO all transport engineers and the general telecom community understand that 1+1 or 1:1 are either SNCP or APS. Hence why introduce a new TLA (three letter abbreviation) cover the same function and feature for MPLS-TP. I can only agree that this will only cause confusion. Cecil Byles Senior Architect Transmission Services Interoute Communications Limited Walbrook Building, 195 Marsh Wall, London E14 9SG, UK <http://www.interoute.com/networks/index.html> direct line: +44 (0)2070259599 fax: +44 (0)2070259864 mobile +44(0)7866447466 email: cecil.byles@interoute.com <mailto:x@interoute.com> web: www.interoute.com <http://www.interoute.com/> ________________________________ From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vivien Sterling Sent: 24 March 2010 09:27 To: Alexander Vainshtein Cc: mpls@ietf.org; CCAMP@ietf.org; mpls-tp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] Term "PSC" indraft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-01 Sasha, Right. It causes more confusion when GMPLS is used with MPLS-TP. Could you share more information about the relationship between "PSC" and "APS protocol" ? Are they exactly the same with only the different naming? If so, I don't see any good of giving "a new fancy name". Anyway, I might be out of fashion ;-) Cheers, Vivien 2010/3/24 Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> Vivien and all, AFAIK, PSC stands for "Protection State Coordination" in the MPLS-TP parlance (see MPLS-TP Survivability Framework <http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-survive-fwk/> ) - a new fancy name for what has been known as "APS Protocol" in SONET/SDH. As you've noted, it has a completely different meaning in GMPLS. Since GMPLS is going to be used with MPLS-TP, double usage of this acronym looks highly problematic. Regards, Sasha From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vivien Sterling Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:21 AM To: CCAMP@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; mpls-tp@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] Term "PSC" in draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-01 Dear Experts, I'm surprised to find the term "PSC" used in this draft. I suppose the authors are talking about data plane not control plane, right? Isn't PSC in GMPLS elaborated as "Packet Switch Capable" ? It's confusing :-( -- Cheers, Vivien -- Cheers, Vivien
- [mpls] Term "PSC" in draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-pr… Vivien Sterling
- Re: [mpls] Term "PSC" in draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linea… Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [mpls] Term "PSC" in draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linea… Vivien Sterling
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term "PSC" indraft-i… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] Term "PSC" indraft-ietf-mpls-t… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] Term "PSC" in draft-ietf-mpls-… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term "PSC" indraft-i… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] [CCAMP] Term "PSC" in draft-… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] [CCAMP] Term "PSC" in draft-… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] [CCAMP] Term "PSC" in draft-… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term"PSC" indraft-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term"PSC" indraft-ie… Yuji Tochio
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] Term "PSC" indraft-ietf-mpls-t… Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term "PSC" indraft-i… Zhi-Wei Lin
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term"PSC" indraft-ie… Lou Berger
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term"PSC" indraft-ie… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term"PSC" indraft-ie… Zhi-Wei Lin
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term"PSC"indraft-iet… neil.2.harrison
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term"PSC" indraft-ie… John E Drake
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term"PSC"indraft-iet… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term "PSC"indraft-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term"PSC"indraft-iet… Zhi-Wei Lin
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term "PSC"indraft-ie… Zhi-Wei Lin
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term "PSC" indraft-i… alan.mcguire
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] Term "PSC" indraft-ietf-mpls… Cecil Byles
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term "PSC"indraft-ie… Cecil Byles
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term"PSC"indraft-iet… Cecil Byles
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term"PSC" indraft-ie… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] Term "PSC"indraft-ietf-mpls-tp… benjamin.niven-jenkins
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term "PSC"indraft-ie… benjamin.niven-jenkins
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] Term"PSC" indraft-ie… BUSI ITALO