Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] Progressing Resolution of Erratum 2533 (RFC 5960)
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Subject: Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] Progressing Resolution of Erratum 2533 (RFC 5960)
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These are the same issue Adrian. That is, if the server respects the single-source requirement of a connection (crucial for deterministic resource management anyway) then provided it carries only a single client over its (connection) lifetime one does not require a PID field...this information is carried as a semantic by the parent connection construct. We can also omit a SA from the child traffic units of a connection for exactly the same (single source) reason. Note that this is not true for a cl-ps server...such as native Ethernet say. In a cl-ps layer network the traffic unit MUST carry 3 absolute labels: - full SA label - full (unswapped) DA label (for forwarding) - PID label However, since a cl-ps server cannot provide deterministic resource management it is not a good idea to use it as a transport network. regards, Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel > Sent: 10 November 2010 07:39 > To: ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int; mpls@ietf.org; mpls-tp@ietf.org > Subject: [mpls-tp] Progressing Resolution of Erratum 2533 (RFC 5960) > > All, > > Thank you for your input and suggestions on this topic. > > To be clear, we are not attempting to reach consensus on what > change to make, but I am listening to your individual opinions. > > In deciding what Erratum to post, I will select a form of > words that clarifies the published RFC text, but which does > not make a technical change. I intend to reflect the > consensus of the IETF that was demonstrated by the > publication of this document. > > The Erratum process is intended to correct typographic or > rendition issues that produce Editorial or Technical issues > in the published text. The process is not intended to make > technical changes or fixes. Such issues should be handled by > revising the work through the IETF consensus process. > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-uni-nni is a good example of how that is done. > > Now, with regard to this particular Erratum. > > It seems to me that there are two separate concerns. > > The first concern is about identification of payloads. This > is needed for a range of reasons, and is a firm requirement > in the existing text (and, indeed in the MPLS architecture). > However, it is noted that the identification may be explicit > or implicit. The text also notes that the use of explicit > identification of payload is a facilitator for demultiplexing > multiplexed payloads. > > The second concern is whether there is a requirement to > support payload multiplexing. I do not believe there is any > statement about the support for multiplexing in RFC 5960. The > only mention of the subject is in the filed Erratum. It would > be wrong to introduce any statement of requirement or > non-requirement through an Erratum. > > So, I'm not hearing anything that persuades me that the > Erratum should be different from what I wrote. If folk want > to establish a specific requirement that multiplexing is not > required, then they can go ahead and write a draft. I cannot > speak for how the WG will greet such a draft. > > Thanks, > Adrian > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls-tp mailing list > mpls-tp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp >
- [mpls] Progressing Resolution of Erratum 2533 (RF… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] Progressing Resolution of Erratum 2533… Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] Progressing Resolution of Er… neil.2.harrison
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] Progressing Resolution of Er… Malcolm.BETTS
- [mpls] R: [mpls-tp] Progressing Resolution of Err… BUSI, ITALO (ITALO)
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] R: Progressing Resolution of… Adrian Farrel
- [mpls] R: [mpls-tp] R: Progressing Resolution of … BUSI, ITALO (ITALO)
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] R: R: Progressing Resolution… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] How can ITU-T experts contribute to the wo… BUSI, ITALO (ITALO)