Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-andersson-mpls-open-dt-questions-00.txt
Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Thu, 29 April 2021 13:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-andersson-mpls-open-dt-questions-00.txt
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Stewart, I was that concerned about the amount of data that needs to be flooded, but rather that the mechanisms we have is insufficient. In the LDP case an LSR informs its peers about capabilities, they are not flooded across the network RFC 5561 - Each LDP speaker is assumed to implement a set of enhancements, each of which has an associated capability. At any time, a speaker may have none, one, or more of those enhancements "enabled". When an enhancement is enabled, the speaker advertises the associated capability to its peers. By advertising the capability to a peer, the speaker asserts that it shall perform the protocol actions specified for the associated enhancement. For example, the actions may require the LDP speaker to receive and process enhancement- specific messages from its peer. Unless the capability has been advertised, the speaker will not perform protocol actions specified for the corresponding enhancement. An LSR that initiates an LSP with a maximum scanning depth depth need to know this for every LSR along the LSP. /Loa On 29/04/2021 12:25, Stewart Bryant wrote: > It is one additional capability field (no more than a byte) to flood and I find it hard to imagine that it would not scale. -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail.com Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64
- Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-andersson-mpls-open-… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-andersson-mpls-open-… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-andersson-mpls-open-… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-andersson-mpls-open-… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-andersson-mpls-open-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-andersson-mpls-open-… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-andersson-mpls-open-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-andersson-mpls-open-… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-andersson-mpls-open-… Sergey Fomin