Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language
Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Mon, 31 October 2016 17:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language
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On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 08:43:56AM -0700, Dave Crocker wrote: > special phrasing of the requirement. In effect, the requirement needs to be > phrased more like a process requirement than as a simple, objective > criterion. > Thoughts? I think this is the opposite direction to the draft that I put together with Alissa, but I think it might work. The reason I, at least, worked on the draft we submitted was that I felt draft-baker-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process had two issues: too many things listed, and no guidance for the IAOC to understand when it had done the right thing. This "do the right thing" problem is I think part of the issue we've faced. The IAOC knows there are a bunch of things to take into account. What it does not know is how to balance the various things against each other, and as a result it sometimes just blows it and everyone gets angry. I thought that a way to answer that was to give an ordered list of priorities. This would mean that a venue that satisfied them all would be preferable to one that didn't, but if the IAOC couldn't get everything then it would be in a position to tell the community, "We tried, we couldn't get everything, and here's the way we decided (which has consensus)." An alternative is, I suppose, to list the criteria that must somehow be satisfied and to describe what satisfaction looks like without specifying the particular satisfaction mechanism. The problem with that, of course, is that it puts the squishiness issue back onto the IAOC and makes way for these sorts of dispute in the future, too. But at least there's an unambiguous list of what must be achieved. A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
- [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Corinne Cath
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Venue 'requirements' language Andrew Sullivan