Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via MP_PRIO message
Yoshifumi Nishida <nishida@sfc.wide.ad.jp> Sat, 29 July 2017 01:20 UTC
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 18:20:40 -0700
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Subject: Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via MP_PRIO message
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On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:36 AM, Olivier Bonaventure < Olivier.Bonaventure@uclouvain.be> wrote: > > >> The proposal to signal a break-before-make backup flag has been >> suggested but has not received sufficient traction to be adopted. >> >> >> Right. But, I am wondering if we might want to think about it again just >> in case. >> >> Let's say a server has two address S1, S2 while the client is behind FW. >> As the client is behind firewall, the server uses ADD_ADDR to send the info >> for S2, but it want it to be used as a backup. >> >> In this case, if MP_PRIO has addr id field, the server is able to set the >> addr as a backup. >> But, if MP_PRIO doesn't have addr id, all the server can do is to wait >> until the client establishes the connection with S2. >> > > If we want to associate a backup status to an address, which could have > valid use cases, then I'd suggest to use one of the spare bits of the > ADD_ADDR option for this. > > As mentioned earlier, the semantics of the backup bit in the ADD_ADDR > differs from the semantics of the backup bit in MP_JOIN/MP_PRIO. > > In MP_JOIN, it means "don't use this subflow is non-backup subflows are > active". > > In ADD_ADDR, it would mean "don't use this address to establish a subflow > if subflows to non-backup addresses are still active" > > Having both could make sense It makes sense to me. I personally think supporting only one semantic looks unbalanced design unless we are not very interested in setting backup status.. -- Yoshi
- [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via MP_PR… Zhiyun Qian
- Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via M… Alan Ford
- Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via M… Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via M… Christoph Paasch
- Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via M… Alan Ford
- Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via M… Zhiyun Qian
- Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via M… Zhiyun Qian
- Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via M… Christoph Paasch
- Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via M… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via M… Alan Ford
- Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via M… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via M… Alan Ford
- Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via M… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via M… Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [multipathtcp] MPTCP backup flag attack via M… Yoshifumi Nishida