Re: [nat66] Residential use case
"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Mon, 25 October 2010 19:18 UTC
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From: Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>
To: 'Margaret Wasserman' <margaretw42@gmail.com>, 'Fred Baker' <fred@cisco.com>
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:17:29 -0700
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Cc: 'Keith Moore' <moore@network-heretics.com>, nat66@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [nat66] Residential use case
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> -----Original Message----- > From: nat66-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:nat66-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Margaret Wasserman > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 10:29 AM > To: Fred Baker > Cc: Keith Moore; nat66@ietf.org HappyFunBall > Subject: Re: [nat66] Residential use case > > > Hi Fred, > > On Oct 25, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > >> Then we are in complete agreement. NAT66 isn't needed for most > >> home users -- a stateful firewall would serve the same purpose. > > > > You may be interested to review > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-troan-multihoming-without-nat66 > > "IPv6 Multihoming without Network Address Translation", Ole Troan, > > David > > Miles, Satoru Matsushima, Tadahisa Okimoto, Dan Wing, 26-Jul-10 > > > > The question of multihoming with or without NAT66 (specifically > > referring to this draft) was brought up by a large residential > > access provider, who given current solutions sees NAT66 as the only > > solution to its *residential* problems. Basically, the point of the > > draft is to describe their scenario and state that they need > > solutions to three residential problems or they will consider > > themselves as having no alternative to NAT66. > > Wow, I do have to read that. From the name, I thought the document > said exactly the opposite, although I should have trusted that author > list to come up with something insightful. Thanks for the pointer! No insight, other than: fix four problems on hosts to eliminate four reasons for NAT66. Solutions to those four problems are already moving forward in MIF. -d
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- [nat66] Residential use case Fred Baker
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- Re: [nat66] Residential use case Fred Baker
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