[nemo] FW: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base solution
"T.J. Kniveton" <tj@kniveton.com> Thu, 19 June 2003 20:06 UTC
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Subject: [nemo] FW: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base solution
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Hi folks, The subject of IPR has come up on the design team mailing list and we had a discussion about it. In the interests of full disclosure to the whole NEMO group, I would like to also present these messages here on the main list so everybody can know what's going on. I have checked with the DT mailing list members and no one has objected to this, so I will forward the messages here for anyone who's interested. thanks, TJ ------ Forwarded Message From: "T.J. Kniveton" <tj@kniveton.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 15:01:21 -0700 To: nemo-base-dt@nal.motlabs.com Subject: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base solution Hi all, This subject came up last week and I would like to say a little more on it so we can get as full a picture as possible. As was already mentioned, Cisco asserted they may have IPR which may affect draft-kniveton-mobrtr-02. I talked with their patent attorney via e-mail, and I was not able to get a full picture of exactly what their IPR claims would cover. Apparently they have not yet been issued patents on this, but it appears to spring out of their earlier Mobile IPv4-based mobile router work a couple of years ago. In addition, I need to remind people that we at Nokia have IPR that would apply to a basic mobile router solution, as was disclosed when the draft was submitted. As far as I personally know, both Nokia and Cisco have IETF policies that allow free licensing as long as reciprocity is granted, and are mainly defensive postures. I have contacted our own patent attorneys to get a better statement regarding this Nokia IPR that applies to mobile routers. I know there are a lot of concerns about IPR, and it is hard to be totally sure what the situation is. I don't know about others who may have any IPR claims on mobile routers, but I just want to share my knowledge as soon as possible, which the is all the info I have right now. When I hear back from our lawyers I'll give an update. -TJ ------ End of Forwarded Message
- [nemo] FW: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base solution T.J. Kniveton
- [nemo] FW: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base solution T.J. Kniveton
- [nemo] FW: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base solution T.J. Kniveton
- RE: [nemo] FW: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base soluti… Soliman Hesham
- Re: [nemo] FW: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base soluti… Jari Arkko
- Re: [nemo] FW: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base soluti… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [nemo] FW: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base soluti… T.J. Kniveton
- Re: [nemo] FW: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base soluti… Jari Arkko
- Re: [nemo] FW: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base soluti… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [nemo] FW: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base soluti… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [nemo] FW: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base soluti… T.J. Kniveton
- Re: [nemo] FW: [nemo-base-dt] IPRs on base soluti… Erik Nordmark
- [nemo] Re: IPRs on base solution Alexandru Petrescu