Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt
Phil Shafer <phil@juniper.net> Mon, 26 June 2006 21:24 UTC
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To: Balazs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:55:04 +0200." <449A68F8.8010608@ericsson.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:21:40 -0400
From: Phil Shafer <phil@juniper.net>
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Balazs Lengyel writes: >1) I want to fetch recorded data from yesterday 12:00Z till >13:00Z. The draft doesn't seem >to allow this as the stop time is already in the past. I would allow this! The draft allows this; see 3.2.1.1 (Closing the Response). >2) Same comments as for Sharon's draft: >Use a data model for streams and use the get and edit-config >operations instead of a custom operation for a small set of special >(?) data. Even if streams can be defined in multiple ways >(configuration, system default, etc.) they still can nicely be modeled >as read-only data. System defaults aren't read-only data; see 1.3 in the netconf-prot spec. > > I'm not prepared to be the first lamb on that altar. ;^) >Someone has to be :-) otherwise NETCONF is dead already. Nope, it's the opposite. NETCONF is in its infancy. The raw config parts are starting to gel and get widely implemented but the role of standard data models, how they are defined, where they fit, how and when the translation between the standard and the device-specific occurs, and what to do when things don't quite translate are all wide open areas which need tons of work. We should work to make our puppy grow up, but should continue to do reasonable work in parallel to allow the growing pup is useful asap for taming real world problems. Thanks, Phil -- to unsubscribe send a message to netconf-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: <http://ops.ietf.org/lists/netconf/>
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- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Martin Bjorklund
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Martin Bjorklund
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Shane Kerr
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Andy Bierman
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Phil Shafer
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Phil Shafer
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Phil Shafer
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Andy Bierman
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Shane Kerr
- RE: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Rainer Gerhards
- RE: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Rainer Gerhards
- RE: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Rainer Gerhards
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Vincent Cridlig
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Phil Shafer
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Andy Bierman
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Phil Shafer
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Phil Shafer
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Andy Bierman
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Andy Bierman
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- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Andy Bierman
- RE: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Rainer Gerhards
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- RE: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Rainer Gerhards
- RE: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Rainer Gerhards
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Martin Bjorklund
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Vincent Cridlig
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Andy Bierman
- RE: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt David Harrington
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Balazs Lengyel
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Andy Bierman
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- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Balazs Lengyel
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- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Phil Shafer
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- RE: Verbs Again (was RE: draft-shafer-netconf-sys… Rainer Gerhards
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- RE: Verbs Again (was RE: draft-shafer-netconf-sys… Rainer Gerhards
- Re: Verbs Again (was RE: draft-shafer-netconf-sys… Andy Bierman
- Re: Verbs Again Phil Shafer
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- Re: Verbs Again Andy Bierman
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- Re: Verbs Again (was RE: draft-shafer-netconf-sys… Phil Shafer
- Re: Verbs Again Phil Shafer
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- Re: Verbs Again (was RE: draft-shafer-netconf-sys… Phil Shafer
- Re: Verbs Again (was RE: draft-shafer-netconf-sys… Balazs Lengyel
- Re: Verbs Again (was RE: draft-shafer-netconf-sys… Andy Bierman
- Re: Verbs Again (was RE: draft-shafer-netconf-sys… Eliot Lear
- Re: Verbs Again (was RE: draft-shafer-netconf-sys… Balazs Lengyel
- Re: Verbs Again (was RE: draft-shafer-netconf-sys… Andy Bierman
- Re: Do we need data modeling rules like an SMI Andy Bierman
- Re: Verbs Again (was RE: draft-shafer-netconf-sys… Andy Bierman
- Do we need data modeling rules like an SMI Balazs Lengyel
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Balazs Lengyel
- Re: draft-shafer-netconf-syslog-00.txt Phil Shafer
- Re: Do we need data modeling rules like an SMI Martin Bjorklund
- Re: Do we need data modeling rules like an SMI Martin Bjorklund
- Re: Do we need data modeling rules like an SMI Andy Bierman
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