Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif
Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Thu, 27 September 2018 21:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif
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On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 1:49 PM Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> wrote: > > > > <chair plea> > > Can we try to have a Last Call worthy version on the restcon-notif > > draft by mid next week? The chairs would like to Last Call both > > NN + RN together if possible... > > </chair plea> > > > > > > As I understand it, there are three issues (any others?) as follows: > > > > 1) SSE > > > > Actually, with Reshad's last response, this may not be an issue > > anymore. Just in case, I also feel that the *restconf*-notif draft > > needs to align as closely as possible to the RFC 8040 notification > > solution. Ideally, we just use SSE outright and we're done. > > +1 > +1 > > > 2) HTTP/2 > > > > Not sure where this landed, but my thoughts are this draft needs to > > support both 1.1 and 2.0. > > Why? I don't really understand why restconf-notif, or RESTCONF for > that matter, need special handling for HTTP/2. Won't RESTCONF "just > work" with HTTP/2? Agreed > > > I envision the variation being relatively > > minor, something along the line of: > > > > if 1.1, then SSE. > > if 2.0, client MAY open a stream first. > > > > 3) resource URIs > > > > This is likely where we need to spend the most time. We know that > > establish-subscription returns a dynamically created URI, comparable > > to what a client might get from > ietf-restconf-monitoring:restconf-state\ > > /streams/stream/access/location. > > But it is not quite comparable. In the 8040 solution, the location > url is static, and then query parameters are provided by the client > in the POST to the SSE location. Thus, the server can free any > resources associated with the filter when the connection is > terminated. > > The RESTCONF procedure starts with the client examining /restconf-state/streams to determine stream and its location URL How does this monitoring information relate to the new solution? I assume both the old and new procedures can be supported by the same server. Is it just ignored for a new subscription? Since all SSE data is always media type test/event-stream, each stream entry indicates its secondary encoding format. This leaf is type string, and only 'xml' and 'json' are supported in RFC 8040. The establish-subscription RPC has its own leaf for this purpose. > > > Are there just two issues? > > > > a) how does the server ensure only said client accesses the resource? > > The server cannot know this. I guess it can verify the username. But > does it matter? > It matters if the server wants to pre-check the subscription for NACM issues when it is created. I want to make sure the same username is used, and only 1 session is doing a GET on the subscription resource. > > > b) how does the server know when it's okay to reclaim the resource, > > when a client doesn't "delete" or "kill" the subscription? > > Yes this is not clear. > > Note that the RESTCONF solution avoids this problem because only the GET on the SSE URI causes resources to be allocated for a subscription. One solution proposal: - use a timeout and if the client does not connect within that time, the subscription will be suspended or deleted. - if the client terminates the SSE GET then either suspend or terminate the subscription > /martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > Netconf mailing list > Netconf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf >
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Qin Wu
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] SSE and HTTP/2 in restcon-notif Kent Watsen