Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Mon, 13 January 2014 13:12 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval
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Dear all, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Today Bert, Mehmet, and I had a quick conf. call regarding the charter, and we made a few modifications. You can follow up the temp charter text at http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-netconf/ Under the history tab, there is a very useful diff tool. The version 15, dated May 31st is the current official charter The version 15-06, dated Jan 10th, is the charter as proposed below in this email The version 15-11, dated today, is the charter after our discussion today. As you can see from the diffs: - we added the zero touch configuration document - we tried to justify why the YANG patch document is needed - we updated the milestones - we added an important sentence regarding the RESTCONF/NETCONF alignment: RESTCONF should not deviate from NETCONF unless proper justifications is provided and documented. - minor edits Feedback? I have two more points: 1. A question to which I've been receiving different answers from different persons: I understand that RESTCONF is an additional simplified interface that follows RESTful principles and is compatible with a resource-oriented device abstraction, but will RESTCONF be in line with the RFC 3535 section 3 requirements. I understand that those requirements are for the communication between the NMS and the managed device. Hence my question during the last meeting opendaylight presentation: will RESTCONF be used as north bound interface only protocol, or also as a south bound interface. The answer was both: So we might have different (competing) solutions to managed devices. 2. HTTP2.0 is developed in the HTTPbis WG. I see that draft-bierman-netconf-restconf is based on HTTP 1.1. Will it still work with HTTP2.0? Or is this completely orthogonal? I've not been been following the HTTP2.0 developments, so I don't even know if this is a valid question, but I'm wondering if we should say something about the HTTP 2.0 compatibility in the charter? Regards, Benoit > Dear Benoit, > hope you had restful holidays. > Below is the charter proposal we prepared following the consensus > calls and review of the draft charter text, basically adding to the WG > item list point 3. for the joint server configuration data model and > point 4. for RESTCONF. > We would like to ask you to initiate the re-chartering and the > approval by the IESG. Thank you. > Bert & Mehmet > --------------- > Network Configuration (netconf) > ------------------------------- > Charter > Current Status: Active > Chairs: > Bert Wijnen <bertietf@bwijnen.net> > Mehmet Ersue <mehmet.ersue@nsn.com> > Operations and Management Area Directors: > Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> > Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> > Operations and Management Area Advisor: > Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> > Mailing Lists: > General Discussion: netconf@ietf.org > To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf > Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netconf/ > Description of Working Group: > Configuration of networks of devices has become a critical requirement > for operators in today's highly interconnected networks. Large and small > operators alike have developed their own mechanisms or have used vendor > specific mechanisms to transfer configuration data to and from a device > and to examine device state information which may impact the > configuration. Each of these mechanisms may be different in various > aspects, such as session establishment, user authentication, > configuration data exchange, and error responses. > The NETCONF protocol has the following characteristics: > - Provides retrieval mechanisms which can differentiate between > configuration data and non-configuration data > - Is extensible enough so that vendors can provide access to all > configuration data on the device using a single protocol > - Has a programmatic interface (avoids screen scraping and formatting- > related changes between releases) > - Uses an XML-based data representation, that can be easily > manipulated > using non-specialized XML manipulation tools. > - Supports integration with existing user authentication methods > - Supports integration with existing configuration database systems > - Supports multiple (e.g. candidate and running) data-stores to > optimize > configuration preparation and activation > - Supports network wide configuration transactions (with features such > as locking and rollback capability) > - Runs over a secure transport; SSH is mandatory to implement while > TLS is an optional transport. > - Provides support for asynchronous notifications. > - Supports an Access Control Model and a YANG module for > configuring the > Access Control parameters. > - Supports a YANG module for System Notifications > The NETCONF protocol is data modeling language independent, but YANG is > the recommended NETCONF modeling language, which introduces advanced > language features for configuration management. > Based on the implementation, deployment experience and interoperability > testing, the WG aims to produce a NETCONF status report in a later > stage. > The result may be clarifications for RFC6241 and RFC6242 and addressing > any reported errata. > In the current phase of NETCONF's incremental development the workgroup > will focus on following items: > 1. Develop the call home mechanism for the mandatory SSH binding > (Reverse > SSH) providing a server-initiated session establishment. > 2. Advance NETCONF over TLS to be in-line with NETCONF 1.1 (i.e., update > RFC 5539) and add the call home mechanism to provide a server-initiated > session establishment. > 3. Combine the server configuration data models from Reverse SSH and > RFC5539bis drafts in a separate YANG module. > 4. Develop a RESTful interface (RESTCONF) for accessing YANG data using > the datastores defined in NETCONF. The YANG patch operation will be > prepared > in a separate draft. > Goals and Milestones: > Jan 2014 - Submit initial WG drafts for RESTCONF as WG item > Apr 2014 - WGLC for RFC5539bis > Apr 2014 - WGLC for Reverse SSH > Apr 2014 - WGLC for NETCONF server configuration data model > May 2014 - Submit Reverse SSH to AD/IESG for consideration as > Proposed Standard > May 2014 - Submit RFC5539bis to AD/IESG for consideration as > Proposed Standard > Jun 2014 - WGLC for RESTCONF drafts > Aug 2014 - Submit RESTCONF to AD/IESG for consideration as Proposed > Standard
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Benoit Claise
- [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Barry Leiba
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Benoit Claise
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Benoit Claise
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Wojciech Dec
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Alexander Clemm (alex)
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Wojciech Dec
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Benoit Claise
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Wojciech Dec
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Wojciech Dec
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Wojciech Dec
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Wojciech Dec
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Benoit Claise
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Benoit Claise
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Alexander Clemm (alex)
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Benoit Claise
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Charter update for approval Andy Bierman