Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-kwatsen-netconf-server-00

Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Tue, 08 April 2014 16:53 UTC

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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
To: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-kwatsen-netconf-server-00
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The enabled with a default true leaf allows to disable a transport
without having to remove all config. There is currently no other
mechanism available in RFCs to do this and hence this pattern may
still have value.

/js

On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 04:47:34PM +0000, Kent Watsen wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >draft-ietf-netconf-rfc5539bis-03 had
> >
> >         +--rw tls
> >            +--rw enabled?     boolean
> >
> >which draft-kwatsen-netconf-server-00 lacks.  Why?
> >
> >Tom Petch
> 
> 
> This must've gotten dropped do to the draft-kwatsen-netconf-server model
> having a didn't structure, but as the original 5539 had no model, I think
> that it's a fair topic for discussion.
> 
> Personally, I'd rather stick with the original intent of presence
> containers: "enabled" if-and-only-if  "configured".  We're using these
> "enabled" configuration nodes as a substitute to having XML attributes for
> metadata describing the node's enablement, such as is described in
> draft-kwatsen-conditional-enablement.  At the time that draft was written,
> there didn't seem to be much interest, but then later I heard some support
> from Andy.  My thinking is to dust it off and get it going again, maybe
> something simpler this time.
> 
> Again, I'm thinking that it's OK, and even a good thing, to just use the
> original intent of presence containers for now, knowing that a more
> complete solution (which is clearly in demand) is right around the corner.
>  What do people think?  Is there support to work on
> draft-kwatsen-conditional-enablement?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kent
> 
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