Re: [Netconf] two-week review of drafts related to notifications and subscriptions

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Subject: Re: [Netconf] two-week review of drafts related to notifications and subscriptions
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kent Watsen" <kwatsen@juniper.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 12:00 AM

> Thank you to all those who participated in the review of
> the drafts related to event notifications.  Recall that
> our interest was to get a heartbeat from the working group
> regarding the readiness of these drafts to progress to Last
> Call.  As we see it, most of the discussion centered on the
> subscribed-notifications draft, and we're optimistic that
> the next update of that draft could be in shooting distance
> to a Last Call.  Assuming that is true, would it make sense
> to do that, or should we look at including other drafts in
> a combo Last Call.  We understand that there is an interest
> to take a vertical slice (yang-push, subscribed-notifications,
> and netconf-notif) to Last Call together, but maybe it would
> make more sense to do subscribed-notifications, netconf-notif,
> and restconf-notif together, as the latter two drafts provide
> the instance examples for the first draft.

Kent

Your start to this thread called out five related I-D for consideration;
I think that you were spot on to link the five together.

Early comments said that three were nearly ready so we will ignore the
other two; a mistake, IMHO.  I do not think it makes sense to proceed
without at least
  -  draft-ietf-netconf-notification-messages
so the priority should be to fix that first;

e.g. I cannot see the status of RFC5277 being determinate without all
five being in play.

Tom Petch

p.s. I think that proceeding with the easier parts and then wishing we
had done it differently as the other parts progress is a common
pattern - for NETCONF, netmod, the IETF - but that does not make it a
good way of working.

> What are your thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Kent and Mahesh
>
>
> --
>
> We’d like to direct the WG attention to the set of drafts related
> to notifications and subscriptions, with the goal of getting a
> pulse on if the WG thinks they are ready to progress now.
>
> To enable you get an overview and to see how the documents relate
> to each other, this draft is a good place to start:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-voit-netconf-subscription-and-notif-ov
erview-00.
>
> The drafts related to this review are:
>
>    -  draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications
>    -  draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push
>    -  draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications
>    -  draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif
>    -  draft-ietf-netconf-notification-messages
>
> While this is not an official WGLC, we will issue one if the
> response is positive. Please provide comments within two weeks.
>
> Thanks,
> Mahesh and Kent
>
>
>
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