Re: [netconf] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8040 (6271)

Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net> Wed, 02 September 2020 19:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: [netconf] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8040 (6271)
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> On Sep 2, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net> wrote:
> 
>     NEW:
> 
>        The default value is “last”, with exception to when used with PUT
>        and the target resource already exists, in which case the default
>        is to replace the target resource without altering its position in the
>        "ordered-by user” list or leaf-list.

The text above allows/suggests that are four “insert” values MAY always be explicitly passed (and presumably processed).  Do we want to support the case where a PUT is used only to move an element?  i.e. the passed “replacement” data is identical to what exists on the server, only the insert/point have an effect?

Or should this strategy be that the insert/point can always be passed (in a PUT for an "ordered-by user” list or leaf-list), but they only have meaning (i.e., are processed) when/if the object is being created, and otherwise ignored?


K.