Re: [netconf] NETCONF/RESTCONF-next IETF 118 Side Meeting

"Per Andersson (perander)" <perander@cisco.com> Wed, 08 November 2023 18:07 UTC

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Hi!

Thanks to all the participation  the NETCONF/RESTCONF-next side meeting.

Minutes from the session:

Wed, 08 Nov 2023 15:14:48 +0100

NETCONF/RESTCONF-next IETF 118 sidemeeting


The idea for this side meeting is to identify work related to
netconf-next and restconf-next in the following categories:
* is done or ongoing already
* needs yang-next
* needs new protocol versions (i.e. would likely break existing clients)
* can be added to existing protocol versions
* might not be worth the effort


restconf-next issue list on github
https://github.com/netconf-wg/restconf-next/issues

netconf-next issue list on github
https://github.com/netconf-wg/netconf-next/issues


Started to categorize the work on netconf-next:

list-pagination
* ongoing
-> closed

copy-config on factory default datastore
* deprecate?
-> james cumming identified that anything not nmda should be deprecated

support for binary encoding in NETCONF
* draft-mahesh-netconf-binary-encoding

confirmed commit procedure needs clarification if persist parameter is
used
* worth doing

commit rpc reply should accept vendor specific ionf
* likely breaking many clients

clarify meaning of "default-operation replace" in copy-config
* worth doing

NETCONF over QUIC
* need to understand benefits
* udp-notif exists, which covers subscriptions/notifs
* https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dai-netconf-quic-netconf-over-quic/

Cleanup of spec relative to YANG/XML
* Make next version of NETCONF only support YANG
* Likely a lot of work

Cleanup of hello message/capability
* needs yang-1.1 or nc-next

JSON encoding support in NETCONF
* worth doing
* consider other encodings


There was interest in the room to continue this work and interest to
attend a interim.

A virtual interim for continuing the categorizing work will be announced
soon, and will take place around the first week of December,


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Subject: [118attendees] NETCONF/RESTCONF-next IETF 118 Side Meeting

Hi!

Since there was interest during the IETF 118 NETCONF WG in starting
work on NETCONF/RESTCONF-next I hereby announce a side meeting
for this topic.

Date: Wednesday 8 November
Time: 15:00-15:30
Room: Karlin 4
Topic: NETCONF/RESTCONF-next
Area: OPS/MGMT
Contact: perander@cisco.com
Description:
  Start categorizing open issues to identify what needs YANG-next,
  new protocol versions, completed work, can be done extending
  current protocol versions, uninteresting work(?).
Remote participation: https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1


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