Re: [Netconf] Alia Atlas' Block on charter-ietf-netconf-18-10: (with BLOCK)
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Tue, 25 April 2017 21:47 UTC
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From: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] Alia Atlas' Block on charter-ietf-netconf-18-10: (with BLOCK)
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On 4/25/2017 8:45 PM, Kent Watsen wrote: > My take is that, once we update NC/RC to support the intended, dynamic, and operational datastores, that will go a long way towards achieving what I2RS needs, maybe even all the way. That said, I don’t know how generic some of the things discussed in the following can be made: > > draft-hares-netmod-i2rs-yang > draft-hares-netconf-i2rs-netconf > draft-hares-netconf-i2rs-restconf > > For instance, the secondary priority concept seems very unique to I2RS and thus may entail an I2RS-specific parameter passed in <edit-data>. For extensions such as this, I would think they'd be done in I2RS. > > To answer Benoit's question, I agree that #7 seems out of place. If we remove it, then #6 might be better written: > > OLD > Based on the revised datastore concept work in NETMOD, ... > NEW > Based on the revised datastore concept work in NETMOD, and > protocol requirements provided by I2RS, ... That makes sense. Alia, fine with you? Regards, B. > > Thoughts? > > Kent > > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:52:02AM +0200, Benoit Claise wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> In order to progress this charter, I would like to clarify one point with >> the revised datastore concept authors. See below. > [...] > >> The last question is: what is the right place for this "I2RS datastore >> semantic, persistence, guidelines, along with the notion of priorities" >> document? > Here is my take: > > a) Once we have NMDA extensions in place, the protocols (NETCONF and > RESTCONF) should not need any additional protocol work to support > I2RS. If the NETCONF WG, for whatever reason, fails to reach this > goal, then I think it should be the NETCONF WG's task to fix this. > > b) Once we have NMDA extensions in place, the definition of an I2RS > datastore with its specific semantics should be done in the I2RS > working group. None of this should require _changes_ to the NMDA > enabled NETCONF/RESTCONF protocols or the YANG language. If the > NETCONF WG and the NETMOD WG, for whatever reason, fails to reach > this goal, then I think it should be the NETCONF or NETMOD WG's > task to fix this. > > In other words, my hope is that the NMDA solution provides a workable > separation of concerns. > > /js >
- [Netconf] Alia Atlas' Block on charter-ietf-netco… Alia Atlas
- Re: [Netconf] Alia Atlas' Block on charter-ietf-n… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Netconf] Alia Atlas' Block on charter-ietf-n… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Netconf] Alia Atlas' Block on charter-ietf-n… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Alia Atlas' Block on charter-ietf-n… Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Alia Atlas' Block on charter-ietf-n… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Netconf] Alia Atlas' Block on charter-ietf-n… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Netconf] Alia Atlas' Block on charter-ietf-n… Mehmet Ersue