RE: SOAP/HTTP over SSH

[Pooja Malhotra <[e-mail]>]

Thanks Andy..
I really appreciate ur help.
But again..as the draft says
that SSH is an mandatory transport
protocol , Can we implement
SOAP over HTTPS (as transport Protocol)
and still be netconf compliant.

Regards,
Pooja



-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Bierman [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:44 PM
To: Pooja Malhotra
Cc: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: SOAP/HTTP over SSH


Pooja Malhotra wrote:
> Hi...
>
> We are planning to implement NetConf.And I am very new to this standard.
> In this effort I went thro' the initial draft
> "NETCONF Configuration Protocol draft-ietf-netconf-prot-12" proposed by
> IETF.
> After going through it , I understood the architecture
> as shown below in the figure:

You have misunderstood the document.
The RPC layer is 'SOAP over HTTP'.
The transport protocol SOAP over HTTPS (HTTP over TLS)
is supported.  You would use this instead of SSH.


Andy

>
>
>       Layer                      Example
>          +-------------+      +-----------------------------+
>      (4) |   Content   |      |     Configuration data      |
>          +-------------+      +-----------------------------+
>                 |                           |
>          +-------------+      +-----------------------------+
>      (3) | Operations  |      | NETCONF operation		|
>          +-------------+      +-----------------------------+
>                 |                           |
>          +-------------+      +-----------------------------+
>      (2) |     RPC     |      |   SOAP over HTTP    		|
>          +-------------+      +-----------------------------+
>                 |                           |
>          +-------------+      +-----------------------------+
>      (1) |  Transport  |      |  SSH                        |
>          |   Protocol  |      |                             |
>          +-------------+  	+-----------------------------+
>
> As you can see, our proposed solution indicated that the SSH would
> be used as Transport Protocol.This choice was made because it
> is mentioned in section 2.4.(Mandatory Transport Protocol )
> that SSH is  mandatory  for NetConf. Now we
> are stuck with the RPC layer protocol. Intially we thought of
> SOAP over HTTP (as RPC layer implementation), But if this the case,
> we fail to understand how the SSH layer will communicate with
> the RPC layer.
> How the SSH layer will interact with the RPC layer over HTTP as it is not
> secure.
>
> Also,once the SSH session is opened between the remote machine,
> how can we ensure that the data transfer is secured through SOAP/HTTP?
>
> What is the nature of the SSH connection?Is it socket connection like SSL?
>
> We tried implementing SSH using opensource Library from JSch
> (for client)and OpenSSH (for SSH Server).
> Other tool we tried was Corkscrew(tool for tunneling SSH
> through HTTP proxies.)
>
> Also Is it mandatory to implement SSH.Instead can we use SOAP
> over HTTPS.
>
> I would be highly obliged if you could please throw some light on
> the queries I have and tell us some tools which can help us in
> implementation.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pooja Malhotra
> Senior Software Engineer,
> MASCON Global ltd.
> Bangalore
> Karnatka (India)
>
>
>
>
>
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