Re: [netmod] regarding draft-bierman-netmod-yang-data-ext-00
Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Sat, 02 September 2017 18:02 UTC
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From: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2017 11:02:42 -0700
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To: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] regarding draft-bierman-netmod-yang-data-ext-00
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Hi, The use-cases for groupings/uses and augment are not identical. Alternative NMDA Approach: I don't see a big difference between defining YANG for an artifact vs. defining some YANG for a special-purpose datastore. There is nothing about the YANG data that is different. There are only differences in the operations on that data, which are properties of the datastore. Perhaps an <artifact> datastore is a cleaner long-term solution. Andy On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> wrote: > > > >> Gotcha. What do other people think, would a "uses-yang-data" > >> statement be generally more useful? > > > > But does this mean we also do uses-yang-container, uses-yang-list, > > uses-yang-xyz to other definitions as well? I do not think this is > > desirable and why would yang-data be any different? > > > Oh, no. I view yang-data as a body-stmt, not a data-def-stmt, > akin to 'rpc' and 'notification'. But back to the draft's > proposed solution, I understand that augment-stmt is a top-level > body-stmt, but it's also a uses-stmt, and in that context, it is > a sibling to the refine-stmt. Already ANIMA has a need to both > augment and refine a yang-data defined structure. To me, a > 'uses-yang-data' statement seems just one step more general than > a 'augment-yang-data' statement. > > Specially, if we were updating YANG: > > // just added last entry > body-stmts = *(extension-stmt / > feature-stmt / > identity-stmt / > typedef-stmt / > grouping-stmt / > data-def-stmt / > augment-stmt / > rpc-stmt / > notification-stmt / > deviation-stmt / > yang-data-stmt) > > // something like this? > yang-data-stmt = yang-data-keyword sep identifier-arg-str > optsep > (";" / > "{" stmtsep > ;; these stmts can appear in any order > [status-stmt] > [description-stmt] > [reference-stmt] > *(typedef-stmt / yang-data-grouping-stmt) > *data-def-stmt > [uses-yang-data-stmt] > "}") stmtsep > > // like 'uses-stmt', but with a different keyword > uses-yang-data-stmt = uses-yang-data-keyword sep > identifier-ref-arg-str optsep > (";" / > "{" stmtsep > ;; these stmts can appear in any order > [when-stmt] > *if-feature-stmt > [status-stmt] > [description-stmt] > [reference-stmt] > *refine-stmt > *uses-augment-stmt > "}") stmtsep > > // like 'grouping-stmt', but with 'action' and 'notification' removed > yang-data-grouping-stmt = yang-data-grouping-keyword sep > identifier-arg-str optsep > (";" / > "{" stmtsep > ;; these stmts can appear in any order > [status-stmt] > [description-stmt] > [reference-stmt] > *(typedef-stmt / yang-data-grouping-stmt) > *data-def-stmt > "}") stmtsep > > > yang-data-keyword = %s"yang-data" > uses-yang-data-keyword = %s"uses-yang-data" > yang-data-grouping-keyword = %s"yang-data-grouping" > > > How close to this can we get using an extension statement, so that a > future adoption to YANG will be as seamless as possible? > > K. > > >
- [netmod] regarding draft-bierman-netmod-yang-data… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] regarding draft-bierman-netmod-yang-… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] regarding draft-bierman-netmod-yang-… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] regarding draft-bierman-netmod-yang-… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] regarding draft-bierman-netmod-yang-… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] regarding draft-bierman-netmod-yang-… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] regarding draft-bierman-netmod-yang-… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] regarding draft-bierman-netmod-yang-… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] regarding draft-bierman-netmod-yang-… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] regarding draft-bierman-netmod-yang-… Andy Bierman