Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-08.txt

tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Wed, 28 June 2023 12:01 UTC

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From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
To: "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" <jclarke@cisco.com>, Benoit Claise <benoit.claise=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" <jclarke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "netmod@ietf.org" <netmod@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-08.txt
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From: Joe Clarke (jclarke) <jclarke@cisco.com>
Sent: 27 June 2023 14:19

Yes, I had pushed for this.  I think it would have help better frame this work given how long it is taking.

<tp>
Yes but had the then I-D been put forward as WGLC, I would have opposed it.  I think that the I-D overstates the case.  Modules have been and do get updated and the idea of having perfection on day is like a frictionless surface, a useful theoretical concept but not one any engineer expects to create.

Tom Petch

Joe

From: netmod <netmod-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Benoit Claise <benoit.claise=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:21
To: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>, Joe Clarke (jclarke) <jclarke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, netmod@ietf.org <netmod@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-08.txt
Dear all,

I am generically not in favor of publishing requirement documents.
However, it might have proven beneficial in this particular case.

Regards, Benoit

On 6/26/2023 6:02 PM, tom petch wrote:
> From: netmod <netmod-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Joe Clarke (jclarke) <jclarke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> Sent: 26 June 2023 16:53
>
> This revision is a resurrection of the expired I-D to help frame the LC discussions around module versioning and YANG Semver.
>
> <tp>
> Joe
>
> Thank you for that
>
> Tom Petch
>
>
> Joe
>
> From: netmod <netmod-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> Date: Monday, June 26, 2023 at 11:49
> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org <i-d-announce@ietf.org>
> Cc: netmod@ietf.org <netmod@ietf.org>
> Subject: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-08.txt
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories. This Internet-Draft is a work item of the Network Modeling
> (NETMOD) WG of the IETF.
>
>     Title           : YANG Module Versioning Requirements
>     Author          : Joe Clarke
>     Filename        : draft-ietf-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-08.txt
>     Pages           : 12
>     Date            : 2023-06-26
>
> Abstract:
>     This document describes the problems that can arise because of the
>     YANG language module update rules, that require all updates to YANG
>     module preserve strict backwards compatibility.  It also defines the
>     requirements on any solution designed to solve the stated problems.
>     This document does not consider possible solutions, nor endorse any
>     particular solution.
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs/
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> There is also an htmlized version available at:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-08
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> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-08
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