Re: [netmod] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8407 (7416)

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Hi Andy,

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med

De : Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
Envoyé : mardi 11 avril 2023 16:58
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
Cc : RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>; netmod@ietf.org
Objet : Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8407 (7416)



On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 10:19 PM <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com<mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>> wrote:
Hi Andy,

Which convention are you referring to?


I mixed up the "prefix table" with "RFC NNNN".

Your fix is not correct.
[Med] It is correct as the example was extracted from draft-ietf-netconf-rfc6536bis. The fix is contextualized.

The correct convention is more like:

        reference
          // RFC Editor: Remove this line and replace NNNN with the correct RFC number
          "RFC NNNN: ...";

I do not really think an RFC update for this sort of bugfix is needed.
[Med] Not sure how this relates to this erratum.

I am not against a WG effort to create 8704bis, but there are already
many RFCs that update it. An update focusing on idnits would not be very interesting.
[Med] That’s not what the proposed 8407 is about, but let’s discuss that separately. Thanks.



What is cited here are excerpt from RFC8407.

Cheers,
Med


Andy


De : Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com<mailto:andy@yumaworks.com>>
Envoyé : vendredi 7 avril 2023 17:36
À : RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org<mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>>
Cc : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com<mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>>; netmod@ietf.org<mailto:netmod@ietf.org>
Objet : Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8407 (7416)

Hi,

This errata cites a documentation convention that was created after RFC 8407 was published.

It is unfortunate that this RFC is an ad-hoc mix of YANG Usage Guidelines
and IETF Documentation Guidelines.  The latter is much less stable.

Andy


On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 5:50 AM RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org<mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>> wrote:
The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8407,
"Guidelines for Authors and Reviewers of Documents Containing YANG Data Models".

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You may review the report below and at:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid7416

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Mohamed Boucadair <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com<mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>>

Section: 4.8

Original Text
-------------
      revision "2017-12-11" {
        description
          "Added support for YANG 1.1 actions and notifications tied to
           data nodes.  Clarify how NACM extensions can be used by other
           data models.";
        reference
          "RFC 8407: Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF)
                     Access Control Model";
      }

Corrected Text
--------------
      revision "2017-12-11" {
        description
          "Added support for YANG 1.1 actions and notifications tied to
           data nodes.  Clarify how NACM extensions can be used by other
           data models.";
        reference
          "RFC UUUU: Network Configuration Access Control Model";
      }

Notes
-----
This example is supposed to illustrate the use of revisions in unpublished updates. Having an RFC under  the reference clause is inconsistent:

   o  published: A stable release of a module or submodule.  For
      example, the "Request for Comments" described in Section 2.1 of
      [RFC2026] is considered a stable publication.

   o  unpublished: An unstable release of a module or submodule.  For
      example the "Internet-Draft" described in Section 2.2 of [RFC2026]
      is considered an unstable publication that is a work in progress,
      subject to change at any time.

I suspect that RFC XXXX in draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis was erroneously replaced by RFC 8407:

      revision "2017-12-11" {
        description
          "Added support for YANG 1.1 actions and notifications tied to
           data nodes. Clarify how NACM extensions can be used by other
           data models.";
        reference
          "RFC XXXX: Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF)
                     Access Control Model";
      }

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RFC8407 (draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-20)
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Title               : Guidelines for Authors and Reviewers of Documents Containing YANG Data Models
Publication Date    : October 2018
Author(s)           : A. Bierman
Category            : BEST CURRENT PRACTICE
Source              : Network Modeling
Area                : Operations and Management
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG

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