[netmod] TR: [IANA #1291942] RE: Early review: draft-boucadair-netmod-rfc8407bis (IETF 117)

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Thread-Topic: [IANA #1291942] RE: Early review: draft-boucadair-netmod-rfc8407bis (IETF 117)
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Hi all,

FWIW, I checked with IANA whether the changes [1] made to address the comment from Martin [2] are clear enough. Please see below. 

Unless I hear any further comments on these changes, I will proceed with the submission of the new version early next week.

Cheers,
Med

[1]: https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/iddiff?doc_1=draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis&url_2=https://boucadair.github.io/rfc8407bis/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis.txt
[2]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netmod/3_tg5oPbHhNQPbo3mMWy0m0cIzg/

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Amanda Baber via RT <iana-issues@iana.org> 
Envoyé : mercredi 13 décembre 2023 20:57
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
Objet : [IANA #1291942] RE: Early review: draft-boucadair-netmod-rfc8407bis (IETF 117)

Hi Med,

That works. Thanks!

Amanda

On Wed Dec 13 08:34:22 2023, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
> Hi Amanda,
> 
> Thank you for the review. Unless you have an objection, I will forward 
> it to the netmod list.
> 
> I confirm for 8126. Please let me know if this note in the abstract is 
> not that clear:
> 
> Also, this document updates RFC 8126 by providing additional 
> guidelines for writing the IANA considerations for RFCs that specify 
> IANA-maintained modules.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Amanda Baber via RT <iana-issues@iana.org> Envoyé : mardi 12 
> > décembre 2023 19:57 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET 
> > <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Cc : bill.wu@huawei.com Objet : [IANA 
> > #1291942] RE: Early review: draft-boucadair-netmod- rfc8407bis (IETF 
> > 117)
> >
> > Hi Med,
> >
> > This is clear enough for us. Thanks!
> >
> > Sabrina had a question about the fact that it's updated RFC 8126: is 
> > this on account of Section 4.30.3, "Guidance for Writing the IANA 
> > Considerations for RFCs Defining IANA-Maintained Modules," or for 
> > another reason?
> >
> > Amanda
> >
> > On Fri Dec 08 07:56:38 2023, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
> > > Hi Amanda,
> > >
> > > We received yesterday a comment from Martin (echoing if I'm not 
> > > mistaken a discussion yangdoctors had with IANA).
> > >
> > > I updated the 8407bis as can be seen in the diff: https://author-
> > > tools.ietf.org/api/iddiff?doc_1=draft-ietf-netmod-
> > >
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> > > The full text can be seen at:
> > >
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> > >
> > > Can you please let me know if the changes are clear enough for 
> > > IANA?
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Med
> > >
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : Amanda Baber via RT <iana-issues@iana.org> Envoyé : jeudi 
> > > > 17 août 2023 22:02 Cc : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET 
> > > > <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>; bill.wu@huawei.com Objet : [IANA 
> > > > #1277027] Early review: draft-boucadair-netmod- rfc8407bis (IETF
> > > > 117)
> > > >
> > > > Hi Med,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry about the delay. I managed to get COVID immediately after
> > the
> > > > meeting. This looks good, and I did look through Section 5.3.
> > We'll
> > > > make sure this is documented internally.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > Amanda
> > > >
> > > > On Fri Jul 21 05:56:51 2023, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
> > > > > Hi Amanda,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for the review.
> > > > >
> > > > > I updated the text as per your feedback:
> > > > >
> > > >
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> > > > > For your second comment, I confirm that the action is to 
> > > > > update the reference of the module:
> > > > >
> > > > > ==
> > > > > YANG Module Names
> > > > >
> > > > > Registration Procedure(s)
> > > > >
> > > > > RFC Required
> > > > >
> > > > > Reference
> > > > >     [RFC6020][RFC8407]
> > > > > ==
> > > > >
> > > > > I move the text to a separate par so that this is clearly 
> > > > > shown
> > as
> > > > > a third action.
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, I wonder whether you also reviewed the following sections:
> > > > >
> > > > > 5.3.  Guidance for Writing the IANA Considerations for RFCs
> > > > >       Defining IANA-Maintained Modules
> > > > >   5.3.1.  Template for IANA-Maintained Modules with Identities
> > > > >   5.3.2.  Template for IANA-Maintained Modules with 
> > > > > Enumerations
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks for all your effort.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Med
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > > De : Amanda Baber via RT <iana-issues@iana.org> Envoyé :
> > > > > > vendredi
> > > > 21
> > > > > > juillet 2023 03:10 Cc : bill.wu@huawei.com; BOUCADAIR 
> > > > > > Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Objet : 
> > > > > > [IANA
> > #1277027]
> > > > > > Early review: draft-boucadair-netmod- rfc8407bis (IETF 117)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Authors,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Before the IETF meeting, we check working group agendas for 
> > > > > > documents with IANA-related issues. We have notes about the
> > > > current
> > > > > > version of this document:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%
> > > > > > 2F
> > > > > > datatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-boucadair-netmod-
> > > > > > rfc8407bis-
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > The IANA Considerations section says, 'The following
> > assignment
> > > > was
> > > > > > detailed in [RFC6087] and has been updated by IANA in the
> > "YANG
> > > > > > Module Names" registry to reference [RFC8407]. This document 
> > > > > > requests IANA to update the reference for the "YANG Module
> > Names"
> > > > > > registry to point to the RFC number that will be assigned to 
> > > > > > this document as it contains the template necessary for 
> > > > > > registration in Appendix B.'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I should note here that when the registry was set up, we 
> > > > > > were
> > > > asked
> > > > > > not to update the reference field for existing 
> > > > > > registrations,
> > as
> > > > is
> > > > > > our practice when other types of registrations are updated,
> > but
> > > > > > to create a new registration and leave the original intact.
> > > > > > We
> > > > > > currently have two ietf-template registrations in the
> > registry:
> > > > > >
> > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%
> > > > > > 2F
> > > > > >
> > > >
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> > > > reference
> > > > > > for the "YANG Module Names" registry' reads as if we're 
> > > > > > being
> > > > asked
> > > > > > to list the document as an additional reference for the
> > registry
> > > > > > itself. Should this document be listed as an additional 
> > > > > > reference for the registry?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you have any questions, just let us know. If you'd like 
> > > > > > to talk in person, you can find us next to the RFC Editor's 
> > > > > > table from Monday through Thursday. You can also request 
> > > > > > another review at
> > > > any
> > > > > > time by contacting us at iana@iana.org.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For more information about IANA Considerations section
> > > > requirements,
> > > > > > please see
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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