Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data-00.txt

Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Fri, 09 February 2018 16:25 UTC

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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data-00.txt
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How do I know which datastore the data belongs to? Would it not make
sense to carry that information inline? If we do not carry this
information inline, how is that information supposed to be provided
if for example this format is used to validate examples included in
documentation?

/js

On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 04:07:11PM +0100, Balazs Lengyel wrote:
> Hello Jurgen,
> 
> I will gladly add NMDA to the draft. However could you please be more
> specific. Which part of NMDA are you missing?
> Is it the example of yanglib that you would like updated?
> 
> As the instance-data can be used to document and/or load    both config=true
> and false data it is IMHO relevant to the candidate/running/operational
> datastores. However whether it should be used to just document data or also
> to load data, and how exactly such a load should be implemented  is out of
> scope. And yes using one SW kit config=false data can be loaded from file
> too.
> 
> regards Balazs
> 
> 
> On 2/8/2018 10:24 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> > [Removing NETCONF since the I-D says -netmod-.]
> > 
> > I flipped through the I-D yesterday and I think a common format for
> > instance data trees should be NMDA aware these days.
> > 
> > /js
> > 
> > On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 10:17:25AM +0100, Balazs Lengyel wrote:
> > >     Hello,
> > > 
> > >     With Benoit I prepared a draft about how to document and use YANG defined
> > >     instance data. It could be useful for documenting  server capabilities or
> > >     preloading data defined in implementation time and probably for other
> > >     purposes as well.
> > > 
> > >     regards Balazs
> > > 
> > >     -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > > 
> > >     Subject: New Version Notification for
> > >              draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data-00.txt
> > >        Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 09:28:50 -0800
> > >        From: [1]internet-drafts@ietf.org
> > >          To: Benoit Claise [2]<bclaise@cisco.com>om>, Balazs Lengyel
> > >              [3]<balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>
> > > 
> > >   A new version of I-D, draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data-00.txt
> > >   has been successfully submitted by Balazs Lengyel and posted to the
> > >   IETF repository.
> > > 
> > >   Name:           draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data
> > >   Revision:       00
> > >   Title:          YANG Instance Data Files and their use for Documenting Server Capabilities
> > >   Document date:  2018-02-06
> > >   Group:          Individual Submission
> > >   Pages:          10
> > >   URL:            [4]https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data-00.txt
> > >   Status:         [5]https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data/
> > >   Htmlized:       [6]https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data-00
> > >   Htmlized:       [7]https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data-00
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Abstract:
> > >      This document specifies a standard file format for YANG instance
> > >      data, that is data that could be stored in a datastore and whose
> > >      syntax and semantics is defined by YANG models.  Instance data files
> > >      can be used to provide information that is defined in design time.
> > >      There is a need to document Server capabilities (which are often
> > >      specified in design time), which should be done using instance data
> > >      files.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
> > >   until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
> > > 
> > >   The IETF Secretariat
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   --
> > >   Balazs Lengyel                       Ericsson Hungary Ltd.
> > >   Senior Specialist
> > >   Mobile: +36-70-330-7909              email: [8]Balazs.Lengyel@ericsson.com
> > > 
> > > References
> > > 
> > >     Visible links
> > >     1. mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org
> > >     2. mailto:bclaise@cisco.com
> > >     3. mailto:balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com
> > >     4. https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data-00.txt
> > >     5. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data/
> > >     6. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data-00
> > >     7. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data-00
> > >     8. mailto:Balazs.Lengyel@ericsson.com
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