Re: [netmod] Differentiating the types of Mount

"Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com> Wed, 16 March 2016 17:19 UTC

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From: "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com>
To: STUART VENTERS <stuart.venters@adtran.com>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Differentiating the types of Mount
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> From: STUART VENTERS, March 16, 2016 12:58 PM
> 
> Defining a schema-tree seems Yang's strong suite.
> I'm not sure if the suite extends to defining what goes into a data-tree governed
> by the schema-tree.

Hi Stuart,

Open Daylight has found Mounting YANG data from one device to another has proven central to their effort.  Doing a quick Google search for "mount site:opendaylight.org" gives 800+ results.

Based on that, I was hoping that being defining the variants of Mount across different constituencies would help us not collide as the technologies evolve.  This includes a shared definition of "YANG Mount" which shows what is common across all efforts.

Thanks,
Eric
 
> Perhaps:
> 
> YANG Mount
>  ----------------
>  Definition: An abstracted term for a YANG mechanism that grafts a sibling
> schema-tree as a subtree of a parent schema-tree.
>  Purpose: Provides flexibility by enabling the growth of YANG models via an
> explicit reference to other YANG models defined elsewhere.
> 
> Given the ability to specify a combined schema-tree, maybe something at the
> protocol level could specify what data to use to populate the grafted tree.
> This could provide a place to specify details like who has ownership of the data,
> if it is RW, etc.
> 
> NETCONF Mount
> ------------------
> Definition: An abstracted term for a NETCONF mechanism to construct a
> combined data-tree according to a schema defined with YANG mount.
> Purpose: ...
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: netmod [mailto:netmod-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Juergen
> Schoenwaelder
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 6:23 AM
> To: Eric Voit (evoit)
> Cc: netmod@ietf.org; Martin Bjorklund (mbjorklu)
> Subject: Re: [netmod] Differentiating the types of Mount
> 
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 03:59:50AM +0000, Eric Voit (evoit) wrote:
> > To help differentiate between concepts and drafts, below are strawman
> definitions for the various types of Mount which we have been discussing over
> the last year in Netmod.   Thoughts/suggestions?
> >
> > YANG Mount
> > ----------------
> > Definition: An abstracted term for a mechanism that a parent YANG model can
> use to link in YANG information defined or located elsewhere.
> > Purpose: Provides model flexibility by enabling the growth of YANG trees via
> an explicit reference to other YANG information and structures.
> 
> Trying to rewrite the definition to be more consistent with existing
> terminology:
> 
>   The abstract concept of incorporating a YANG-defined data tree (the
>   mounted data tree) into a existing YANG-defined data tree (the
>   parent data tree).
> 
> Well, this is not really correct, perhaps we have to just say 'tree'
> instead of 'data tree' since a schema mount (as I understand it) seems to
> incorporate a schema tree into another schema tree while the other two
> mounts incorporate a data tree into a data tree. So perhaps the general
> definition is something like this:
> 
>   The abstract concept of incorporating a YANG-defined data tree or
>   schema tree (the mounted data or schema tree) into a existing
>   YANG-defined data tree or schema tree (the parent data tree).
> 
> The schema mount then essentially removes data tree and the other two
> mounts remove the schema tree from this definition.
> 
> Is your alias mount simply a special case of a peer mount where the peer is
> local? Or is there more to it? In other words, would it be reasonable to think of
> the terms in this way:
> 
>          +-> schema (tree) mount
> 	 |
> mount -> |                        +-> local data tree (alias) mount
>          +-> data (tree) mount -> |
>                                   +-> remote data tree (peer) mount
> 
> /js
> 
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