Re: [netmod] RV: New Version Notification for draft-dbb-netmod-acl-00.txt

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From: "Aseem Choudhary (asechoud)" <asechoud@cisco.com>
To: Oscar González de Dios <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>, "netmod@ietf.org" <netmod@ietf.org>
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Hi, Oscar et al.

This is a useful work and an obvious extension to acl yang. 

I have following comments on the draft:

1. I think it is important to highlight m x n issue in the acl yang (section 3.1/3.2). Let me describe a bit:

    If there are 4 prefixes and 3 ports such that for each prefix and port combination a matching rule needs to be created, it results into 12 matching rule. As the scale goes high, the number of rules multiplies much faster. By creating object-groups/defined-sets for prefix and port, it need to be updated m and n times respectively (making it m + n order)  which is much lower than m x n rules which needs to be created otherwise.

2. icmp defined sets for type and code can be defined independently, similar to flowspec and will be simple extension of ACL yang.

3. Can the defined-sets contains ranges as well (say for port: 40,47, 83-93, 98, 120-140 etc)

4. section 3.4, 3.5: It needs to be decided how much ACL yang can be aligned with flowspec config options. Some of the things like "numeric operator" and "bitmast operand format" are powerful but makes rules complex.

5. For section 3.6, 
      a).  it need to be decided whether policer will be pps (packets per sec) or bps or both. In true ACL way, I think pps makes more sense.

       b) the counters need to be enhanced to support "drop count" as well since "match count" will not be enough. 

6. Similarly, "redirect" to nexthop (VRF and/or prefix) action can also be defined for matching ACL rules. 


Best Regards,
Aseem
  



On 10/19/21, 9:34 AM, "netmod on behalf of Oscar González de Dios" <netmod-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com> wrote:

    Dear Netmod colleagues,

            We discussed in the list some time ago a few possible enhancements on the ACL Yang model (RFC 8519).

            Following the suggestions received the list, we've prepared an individual draft in which we document the motivation of several enhacements to the Access control list Yang model. Note that, in this first version of the document, we have not included on purpose any yang model. We are seeking the work direction from the netmod WG whether the missing features can be accomplished by means of augmentations or whether an ACL-bis document  is more appropriate.

                   Looking forward to receiving your comments / thoughts/ suggestions.

            Best Regards,

                    Oscar, Samier, Med

    -----Mensaje original-----
    De: internet-drafts@ietf.org <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
    Enviado el: lunes, 18 de octubre de 2021 13:06
    Para: Mohamed Boucadair <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>; Oscar González de Dios <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>; Oscar González de Dios <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>; SAMIER BARGUIL GIRALDO <samier.barguilgiraldo.ext@telefonica.com>; SAMIER BARGUIL GIRALDO <samier.barguilgiraldo.ext@telefonica.com>
    Asunto: New Version Notification for draft-dbb-netmod-acl-00.txt


    A new version of I-D, draft-dbb-netmod-acl-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Oscar Gonzalez de Dios and posted to the IETF repository.

    Name:           draft-dbb-netmod-acl
    Revision:       00
    Title:          Extensions to the Access Control Lists (ACLs) YANG Model
    Document date:  2021-10-18
    Group:          Individual Submission
    Pages:          18
    URL:            https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-dbb-netmod-acl-00.txt
    Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dbb-netmod-acl/
    Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dbb-netmod-acl


    Abstract:
       RFC 8519 defines a YANG data model for Access Control Lists (ACLs).
       This document discusses a set of extensions that fix many of the
       limitations of the ACL model as initially defined in RFC 8519.




    The IETF Secretariat



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