Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: (with COMMENT)
Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Wed, 07 March 2018 22:38 UTC
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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 14:38:00 -0800
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To: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: (with COMMENT)
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OK. I think it would be helpful to the reader to say that explicitly. -ekr On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote: > >> Hi Andy, >> >> I don't want to overrotate on period, as I was just using it as an >> example. >> >> As I said, there are a pile of other characters that are not in either >> set. Are >> they allowed or not? >> >> > That is the only other character allowed in YANG not mentioned in this > section. > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7950#section-6.2 > > > -Ekr >> >> > Andy > > >> >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for >>>>>> draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: No Objection >>>>>> >>>>>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >>>>>> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut >>>>>> this >>>>>> introductory paragraph, however.) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/stat >>>>>> ement/discuss-criteria.html >>>>>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> ---------- >>>>>> COMMENT: >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> ---------- >>>>>> >>>>>> draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis.txt:500 >>>>>> normative, if the module itself is considered normative, and not an >>>>>> example module or example YANG fragment. The use of keywords >>>>>> defined >>>>>> in [RFC2119] apply to YANG description statements in normative >>>>>> I think you probably want to rewrite this as: >>>>>> >>>>>> "Note that if the module itself is considered normative and not an >>>>>> example >>>>>> module or example YANG fragment, then all YANG statements..." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> OK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> o Prefixes are never allowed for built in data types and YANG >>>>>> keywords. >>>>>> I'm not sure I understand what this means. Is the idea that I can't >>>>>> use >>>>>> "example-import" somewhere? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The external keyword "example:import" is not the same as the YANG >>>>> keyword "import" >>>>> YANG keywords are not allowed to have prefixes. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> character MAY be used if the identifier represents a well-known >>>>>> value >>>>>> that uses these characters. >>>>>> Is this text saying that only characters in these two subsets are >>>>>> allowed and >>>>>> therefore, for instance "." is forbidden >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This text is suggesting the characters that SHOULD be used. >>>>> The dot and dash chars are not included. The text specifies which >>>>> characters are included. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'm sorry, I am still confused. Here's the original text: >>>> >>>> Identifiers SHOULD follow a consistent naming pattern throughout the >>>> module. Only lower-case letters, numbers, and dashes SHOULD be used >>>> in identifier names. Upper-case characters and the underscore >>>> character MAY be used if the identifier represents a well-known value >>>> that uses these characters. >>>> >>>> There are other characters that are not in either of these sets. Are >>>> you saying >>>> that they can't be used under any conditions? >>>> >>>> >>> I will add the period charater to the list >>> >>> >>> >>>> -Ekr >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It is RECOMMENDED that only valid YANG modules be included in >>>>>> documents, whether or not they are published yet. This allows: >>>>>> For clarify, I assume you mean "the modules are published yet" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> OK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The NETCONF Access Control Model (NACM) >>>>>> [I-D.ietf-netconf-rfc6536bis] >>>>>> does not support parameter access control for RPC operations. The >>>>>> user is given permission (or not) to invoke the RPC operation with >>>>>> This might be slightly clearer if you said "parameter-based access >>>>>> control" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> OK >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
- [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ie… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draf… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draf… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draf… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draf… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draf… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draf… Eric Rescorla