Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-01.txt
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Fri, 17 May 2019 11:15 UTC
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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-01.txt
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I think this does not work: [...] For <copy-config> operation,it can be used to copy the factory default content to another datastore, however the content of the datastore is not propagated automatically to any other datastores. You can't change the way things work. If something is committed to lets say <running>, then this triggers the propagation to <intended> and eventually <operational>. You can't come along and say that copy-config from a particular source stops this. Is it really useful to expose factory default to copy config? Or said differenlty, would it not make sense to fix copy-config (at some other place) so that it can generically work with new datastores? The content of the factory-default datastore is usually not security sensitive as it is the same on any device of a certain type. I am not sure this is true. For non-trivial devices, the default is likely not static but something that takes into account device features available and the specific hardware configuration present. It is actually somewhat unclear what the factory-default datastore contains; the stuff I can expect to see in <running> after the reset or some static stuff that may be tweaked during the boot process to yield the initial <running>. Or are we pretending these two are always the same? The copyright year needs adjustment. Indentation of the YANG statements should be fixed. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <https://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factory-de… internet-drafts
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Qin Wu