Re: [netmod] CODE BEGINS ENDS for examples ?
Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> Mon, 23 March 2020 07:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netmod] CODE BEGINS ENDS for examples ?
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On Sat, 2020-03-21 at 14:56 +0000, Balázs Lengyel wrote: > Hello Kent, > First <CODE BEGIN> <CODE END> is very handy and easier to use then xmllint. > Also some people (not me) are writing RFCs without XML. SO if it acceptable to > you, the RFC editor to whoever I will use <CODE...> for the examples. Is that > acceptable? Note that according to Legal Provisions Relating to IETF Documents [1], the <CODE BEGIN> ... <CODE END> tags demarcate "Code Components", so the license provisions specified in that document apply. Lada [1] https://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/IETF-TLP-5.htm > > Folding: > Rfcfold folds the line at a fixed 69 character length. This produces some not > so nice results: > Rfcfold: > <inline-schema> > <modules-state xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-li\ > brary"> > <module> > Manual folding: > <inline-schema> > <modules-state \ > xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-library"> > <module> > The manual folding can keep a nice tabulation and fold the line at a word or > element boundary. I know such editorial niceties are very hard to program in a > script; but this is one reason to do manual folding. > > I used rfcfold to unfold the acme-router-modules example and I don’t notice > anything strange. > Regards Balazs > > From: Kent Watsen <kent@watsen.net> > Sent: 2020. március 21., szombat 0:01 > To: Balázs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com> > Cc: netmod@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [netmod] CODE BEGINS ENDS for examples ? > > Hi Balazs, > > As I understand it, the <CODE BEGIN> <CODE END> blocks are not appropriate for > examples. > > Examples are easily extracted from XML via `xmllint` with the “—xpath” > parameter, after which the `rfcfold` script can be run. Strongly recommend > setting the “name” attribute on the <sourcecode> or <artwork> element in the > XML draft. It’s good to see that you want to do it this way, as I noticed you > hand-folded the examples and I’m pretty sure I spotted what looked like might > result in an undesirable unfolding artifact... > > FWIW, https://pypi.org/project/xiax attempts to do all this, but I suspended > that effort getting distracted with other things... > > Kent // contributor > > > > > > On Mar 20, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Balázs Lengyel < > > balazs.lengyel=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > Is it allowed/recommended to use <CODE BEGINS> <CODE ENDS> around examples. > > In my case it would be examples of XML and JSON instance data. I would find > > it rather useful. > > > > As a second step if someone could combine rfcstrip with artwork-unfolding > > that would be even better. > > Regards Balazs > > > > -- > > Balazs Lengyel Senior Specialist > > Ericsson Hungary Ltd. > > Mobile: +36-70-330-7909 email: Balazs.Lengyel@ericsson.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > netmod mailing list > > netmod@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > > _______________________________________________ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav Lhotka Head, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67
- [netmod] CODE BEGINS ENDS for examples ? Balázs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] CODE BEGINS ENDS for examples ? Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] CODE BEGINS ENDS for examples ? Balázs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] CODE BEGINS ENDS for examples ? Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] CODE BEGINS ENDS for examples ? Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] CODE BEGINS ENDS for examples ? Kent Watsen