Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-23 (until Sep 9, 2016)

It holds.  Some have FUD.  I do not.

K.

On 9/2/16, 4:35 AM, "Ladislav Lhotka" <lhotka@nic.cz> wrote:

    Hi Stephane,

    if we do any changes to the core routing module, then I am afraid all modules that depend on it will have to follow suit. In particular, if we put config and state data into separate modules, protocol modules should do the same.

    I don't like the idea of putting the core routing model and all work that depends on it on hold until we reach a decision regarding opstate. So, *if* the separation of config and state data gives a reasonable guarantee that at least the config part will be compatible with the ultimate opstate solution (whatever it is), it IMO makes sense to do it. But I am not even sure that the premise holds.

    Lada

    > On 02 Sep 2016, at 10:16, <stephane.litkowski@orange.com> <stephane.litkowski@orange.com> wrote:
    > 
    > Hi,
    > 
    > As this model is a base for multiple routing modules, it would be good to align the op-state modeling between this model and the existing routing related modules (so we can also close the work on multiple routing yang models).
    > So if core routing model uses foo:/foo foo:/foo-state, do we keep this modeling also for our protocol models and close the work ? 
    > 
    > Best Regards,
    > 
    > Stephane
    > 
    > 
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: netmod [mailto:netmod-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Juergen Schoenwaelder
    > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 20:41
    > To: Kent Watsen
    > Cc: netmod@ietf.org
    > Subject: Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-23 (until Sep 9, 2016)
    > 
    > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 06:11:14PM +0000, Kent Watsen wrote:
    >> [as a contributor]
    >> 
    >> My only comment on this draft is that I’d prefer it if the “routing-state” tree were moved into another YANG module, so that it could be more easily deprecated when the opstate solution comes.   I suggested this before, with regards to rfc6087bis Section 5.23, but that thread seemed to have petered out, but now here we are and my opinion remains the same.
    >> 
    > 
    > We already have foo:/foo /foo:foo-state modules and while we can now start a series of foo:/foo and foo-state:/foo-state modules in the hope that this will eventually 'easier' in the future, it might also be that we just create more variation and confusion.
    > 
    > /js
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