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Re: [netmod] json empty leaf encoding strangeness [Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-04 (until 2015-06-29)]

Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Mon, 20 December 2021 22:23 UTC

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From: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 14:22:58 -0800
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To: Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] json empty leaf encoding strangeness [Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-04 (until 2015-06-29)]
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On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 1:53 PM Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org> wrote:

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>
> > On Dec 18, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for caring about backward compatibility and stability.
> >
>
> I guess I left as implicit in my question of whether we could do something
> to fix it, that that "could" implied a fix wouldn't break things. I
> certainly care about stability and backward compatibility.
>
>

good point.

Sometimes we forget that changing the RFCs is the easy part.
People that don't even know this mailing list exists have to learn and
implement the changes.
Then the operator community has to deal with tool incompatibilities for
years to come.

The "industry" expects stability from YANG at this point.
They are focused on implementing and deploying YANG models.
The foundation is good enough. Not perfect. Nobody is expecting that.

Thanks,
> Chris.



Andy

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