Re: [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef
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From: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>
To: Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>, Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef
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Hi Chris, Mahesh, > -----Original Message----- > From: Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org> > Sent: 03 October 2019 20:50 > To: Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com> > Cc: Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>; Rob Wilton (rwilton) > <rwilton@cisco.com>; netmod@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef > > > > > On Oct 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani > <mjethanandani@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> On Oct 3, 2019, at 2:37 AM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Chris, > >> > >> I know that this is late, but ... > >> > >> The YANG packages draft (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rwilton- > netmod-yang-packages-01, but an updated version will be posted soon), is > currently using the module-tags typedef to allow a package definition to > contain a list of tags. > >> > >> E.g. > >> module: ietf-yang-package > >> +--ro yang-package > >> +--ro name yang:yang-identifier > >> +--ro version yang-sem-ver > >> +--ro revision-date? yanglib:revision-identifier > >> +--ro location* inet:uri > >> +--ro description? string > >> +--ro reference? string > >> +--ro previous-version? yang-sem-ver > >> +--ro tag* tags:tag > >> +--ro referentially-complete? Boolean > >> ... > >> > >> This package definition goes into an instance data document, for which > the schema should just be ietf-yang-package, but by it importing ietf- > module-tags.yang, it effectively also pulls in the "container module-tags" > into the schema for the package definition, that I don't think should be > there. > >> > >> If we keep package tags, then I think that there are two ways to fix > this: > >> > >> (1) Split ietf-module-tags into an ietf-module-tags-types.yang and a > ietf-module-tags.yang. But it would be very late to do this, and the > packages draft isn't even a workgroup document at this stage. > > > > I know it is late. But what will it take to split the tags-types module > from the tags module? > > I do not understand why this is important at all. What does "pulls in" > exactly mean? To put YANG instance data into a document you need to know what the schema is associated with the instance data. Ideally, I want the schema for a YANG package instance data document to just be the ro yang-package structure described above (actually now defined using YANG data extension from draft-ietf-netmod-yang-data-ext). To use the "tags:tag" typedef, ietf-yang-package had an import on "ietf-module-tags" which both defines a tags type and also a "module-tags" container as well. I want the typedef, but not the container, because I don't want the schema for the package file to be: +--ro yang-package <-- I do want this | +--ro name yang:yang-identifier | ... +--ro module-tags <-- I don't want this +- ... There are a few solutions: 1) Split ietf-module-tags into a ietf-module-tags-types.yang that only defines the typedef and the extension, and hence the ietf-module-tags.yang only defines the module-tags container, and ietf-yang-packages.yang can just import ietf-module-tags-types.yang 2) Have ietf-yang-package.yang define its own "tags" type, hence there is no dependency on "ietf-module-tags.yang" at all. 3) Tweak the schema specification for simplified-inline-schema in instance-data documents so that the use of ietf-module-tags.yang module effectively becomes "import-only" rather than "implemented". 4) Don't worry about the fact that the file schema for a YANG package contains more than it should. I strongly dislike (4) as an option. But I think that probably either (2) or (3) would be OK as a solution. Hence, it is probably not necessarily to split ietf-module-tags.yang into two files, because there are other solutions available. It isn't even clear to me that (1) is necessarily the best solution anyway ... Thanks, Rob > > Thanks, > Chris. > > > > >> > >> (2) Have the package draft define its own "package tag" typedef, and > not have an import reference on module-tags at all. Probably if we do > keep package tags, then we should also consider a mechanism by which they > can be updated on a device equivalently to module tags. > >> > >> I'm currently thinking that the second choice might be a better > approach at this time, but wanted to check whether you or the WG had an > opinion. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Rob > >> > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: netmod <netmod-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Christian Hopps > >>> Sent: 25 September 2019 17:19 > >>> To: netmod@ietf.org > >>> Subject: Re: [netmod] I-D Action: > >>> draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-09.txt > >>> > >>> This adds the deprecated non-NMDA state module. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Chris. > >>> > >>>> On Sep 25, 2019, at 12:15 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > >>> directories. > >>>> This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF. > >>>> > >>>> Title : YANG Module Tags > >>>> Authors : Christian Hopps > >>>> Lou Berger > >>>> Dean Bogdanovic > >>>> Filename : draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-09.txt > >>>> Pages : 18 > >>>> Date : 2019-09-25 > >>>> > >>>> Abstract: > >>>> This document provides for the association of tags with YANG modules. > >>>> The expectation is for such tags to be used to help classify and > >>>> organize modules. A method for defining, reading and writing a > >>>> modules tags is provided. Tags may be registered and assigned > >>>> during module definition; assigned by implementations; or > >>>> dynamically defined and set by users. This document also provides > >>>> guidance to future model writers; as such, this document updates > RFC8407. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags/ > >>>> > >>>> There are also htmlized versions available at: > >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-09 > >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags > >>>> -09 > >>>> > >>>> A diff from the previous version is available at: > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-09 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > >>>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > >>> tools.ietf.org. > >>>> > >>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> netmod mailing list > >>>> netmod@ietf.org > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > >>>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> netmod mailing list > >> netmod@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > > > Mahesh Jethanandani > > mjethanandani@gmail.com
- [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef Christian Hopps
- Re: [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef Christian Hopps
- Re: [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef Schönwälder
- Re: [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef Schönwälder
- Re: [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] References to the "tags" typedef Rob Wilton (rwilton)