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From: "Flinck, Hannu (Nokia - FI/Espoo)" <hannu.flinck@nokia-bell-labs.com>
To: GENG Liang <liang.geng@hotmail.com>, "netslices@ietf.org" <netslices@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Netslices] FW: New Version Notification for draft-flinck-slicing-management-00.txt
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Hello Liang

Sorry about late response. I have been out of office few past weeks.

Even if I am  not too particular about the terminology we still need to have a common understanding how the various concepts relate especially at  the boarders of the domains across different SDOs. This is important to identify caps and ensure interoperability.

Best regards
Hannu


From: GENG Liang [mailto:liang.geng@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 1:26 PM
To: Flinck, Hannu (Nokia - FI/Espoo) <hannu.flinck@nokia-bell-labs.com>; netslices@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Netslices] FW: New Version Notification for draft-flinck-slicing-management-00.txt

Hi Hannu,

I like the idea of adding ETSI MANO to the picture and distinguish PNF and VNF since the Orchestration of these different types of resources in a network slice instance may be very different. We can discuss further to see how the Framwork document address your concerns

However, the SA5 terms NSMF (which is E2E orchestration in NS-Framework) and NSSMF (which is domain orchestration in NS-Framework) may need further discussion. I am slightly worried about directly using terms defined in other SDOs because you never know what they possibly mean tomorrow.

Best wishes
Liang


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Liang GENG
China Mobile Research Institute

From: Flinck, Hannu (Nokia - FI/Espoo)<mailto:hannu.flinck@nokia-bell-labs.com>
Date: 2017-07-04 23:56
To: netslices@ietf.org<mailto:netslices@ietf.org>
Subject: [Netslices] FW: New Version Notification for draft-flinck-slicing-management-00.txt


A new version of I-D, draft-flinck-slicing-management-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Hannu Flinck and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name: draft-flinck-slicing-management
Revision: 00
Title: Network Slicing Management and Orchestration
Document date: 2017-07-03
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 10
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-flinck-slicing-management-00.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-flinck-slicing-management/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-flinck-slicing-management-00
Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-flinck-slicing-management-00


Abstract:
   Network Slicing is worked in multiple SDOs from different view
   points.  As network slicing is an end-to-end topic, this draft
   proposes that network slices architecture [NS-Framework] aligns with
   the work done in NGMN, 3GPP and ETSI with relation to management and
   orchestration.  The key aspect that this draft makes is the rational
   for role and need for Network Slice Management Function (NSMF) entity
   that operates above Network Virtualization Function Orchestrator and
   PNFs Management Functions.  NSMF needs to support different
   abstractions of resources and to offer access to different management
   entities.




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